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Artemis III - With SpaceX Lander?

atpollard

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We have successfully regained the Apollo 8 (1968) capability to fly around the moon without landing on it after only 54 years of progress in Manned Spaceflight following the end of the Apollo Program.

[Just for the record, both the ISS and Artemis mission could have been achieved in the 1970's using Atlas and Delta rockets if we had not squandered the money on a SATURN V, SHUTTLE (STS) and CONSTELLATION (ARES V) that sucked up the whole budget to actually DO anything.]

We should have decades of data from long-term occupation on the Moon to know if Mars is even an option, instead of ZERO data on living in partial gravity.
 

Ascetic X

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We have successfully regained the Apollo 8 (1968) capability to fly around the moon without landing on it after only 54 years of progress in Manned Spaceflight following the end of the Apollo Program.

[Just for the record, both the ISS and Artemis mission could have been achieved in the 1970's using Atlas and Delta rockets if we had not squandered the money on a SATURN V, SHUTTLE (STS) and CONSTELLATION (ARES V) that sucked up the whole budget to actually DO anything.]

We should have decades of data from long-term occupation on the Moon to know if Mars is even an option, instead of ZERO data on living in partial gravity.
It is all very fishy. Land on moon and explore it in 1969. Just fly by it in 2025.

I think the goal is to someday set up military bases with robots that can launch weapons back at enemies on Earth.

Humans are harmed by radiation in space.
 

atpollard

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It is all very fishy. Land on moon and explore it in 1969. Just fly by it in 2025.

I think the goal is to someday set up military bases with robots that can launch weapons back at enemies on Earth.

Humans are harmed by radiation in space.
I think it is less sinister and more petty.

In the 1960's Russia launched a rocket into orbit and a man into orbit first, so the US was not going to be "beat" by Russia and set a goal of a "man on the moon by the end of the decade" to PROVE that we were better than the "bad guys". [Typical petty national politics unchanged since the 1600's.]

In the new millennium, China announces that it is going to place a man on the moon and build a base there. Well, petty politics will not let any Chinese Communists be better than America ... so we better do it first [again]. If China gets there first, then we will just have to put American boots and a flag on Mars (because that's what we do). :rolleyes:
 
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