Featured Asking for scriptural rebuttal to TULIP

Jesus Himself stated though that narrow is the way, and that few find it, correct?

 

Are you declaring yourself as a universalist?

 

Hope not, as the Bible teaches neither that or annihilation!

 

Might I suggest "Hooked on Phonics?"

It's a proven, simple and fun method to teach critical reading skills.

 

Every thread he/she/it gets involved in they try to make a mess of it.

 

I don't want to derail this thread but define what you mean by the term Universalist?... If you were addressing me?... Brother Glen

 

Oh, you've noticed too?

If it's not an outright strawman it's a misinterpretation of someone's post.

 

So it is conditional on God's elect to be saved and saved without merit on God's elect's part.

 

1 Peter 1:2, "Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, . . ."

 

Actually neither of the passages you provided support total inability. The never once says man is unable to come to Him

Not once in scripture does it ever say a Gentile is elect

Please notice that none of the scriptures you have provided express limited atonement

Many have resisted Christ . The Jew resisted Him and rejected Him and crucified Him So God grace is resistible

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P of TULIP Perseverance of the Saints (also known as Once Saved Always Saved)

[Eph 1:13-14 ESV] 13 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, 14 who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory.

[Eph 4:30 ESV] 30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.



EXTRA, EXTRA. Read all about it!!

Regardless of the efforts of professing Christian working in the name of Christ, if they are not born-again as His child, they will not enter the kingdom of heaven. They exercised their will while not in submission to His will.


[Mat 7:21-23 ESV] 21 "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?' 23 And then will I declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.'



Anti-Semitism of the "Church Fathers"

Their [the Jews] rotten and unbending stiffneckedness deserves that they be oppressed unendingly and without measure or end and that they die in their misery without the pity of anyone.

Excerpt from "Ad Quaelstiones et Objecta Juaei Cuiusdam Responsio," by John Calvi

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perseverance of the saints is works to keep being saved. No works no Salvation
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You cannot prove it to anyone who doesn't know first hand how pathetically sinful and undeserving they are.

 

P of TULIP Perseverance of the Saints (also known as Once Saved Always Saved)

[Eph 1:13-14 ESV] 13 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, 14 who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory.

[Eph 4:30 ESV] 30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.



EXTRA, EXTRA. Read all about it!!

Regardless of the efforts of professing Christian working in the name of Christ, if they are not born-again as His child, they will not enter the kingdom of heaven. They exercised their will while not in submission to His will.


[Mat 7:21-23 ESV] 21 "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?' 23 And then will I declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.'



Anti-Semitism of the "Church Fathers"

Their [the Jews] rotten and unbending stiffneckedness deserves that they be oppressed unendingly and without measure or end and that they die in their misery without the pity of anyone.

Excerpt from "Ad Quaelstiones et Objecta Juaei Cuiusdam Responsio," by John Calvi

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perseverance of the saints is works to keep being saved. No works no Salvation
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Lost sinnersd keep on resisting and rejecting Jesus to save them, but none who are one of the elect ever shall, as they know his voice and are one of his sheep!

 

Actually, ties into Romans 8, as salvation from start to finish is all of God!

 

Yep and it looks almost as if its on purpose.

 

Those verses pro

Ok, how about this for refuting total depravity:

"For I know that in me (that is, in my FLESH,) dwelleth no good thing: for to WILL is PRESENT with ME" (Ro.7:18).

The WILL is a function of the SPIRIT, not of the FLESH: "every one whom his SPIRIT made WILLING" (EX.35:21)

Please note that in the Old Testament, no one was "born again" and anyway, we are told that almost all the people, if not all, were WILLING - are you gonna make all that generation that did not persevere in the wilderness, born again? No.

So there you have it. A lost man is depraved, even in his will, but total depravity does not mean his spirit cannot choose righteousness or choose to believe God.

 

Means that they are slaves to their sin natures, which will continue to reject Jesus to save them from their sins!

 

Please quote scriptures rather than philosophical talking points and address the scriptural points made in the post.

 

You have been waiting patiently and, although I am a Particular Baptists, I feel bad for you and would like to give it a shot ...

This verse sort of cuts both ways, does it not? I mean clearly it states that "Christ Jesus has made me his own", but that is not presented as the prime mover (the great causing force) in this scripture. Rather, the fact that "Christ Jesus has made me his own" is the MOTIVATION ("because") for what comes before. What comes before in that sentence is not rest in an assurance of a finished work, but "I press on to make it my own".

"I press on to make it my own" is a declaration of human effort and human will to obtain what has not already been obtained. Is that really 100% monergism?

So how is that?
Does it serve your needs?