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"WHAT'S" so offensive about God reaping souls regardless of which route man takes, salvation/damnation????Originally posted by rsr:
Me4Him, that's even more offensive than the old saying that "God picks the prettiest flowers for His bouquet." Ack.
LOL! I am *SO* tempted to accuse you of saying God is the author of abortion. It would be poetic justice, but I'll refrain.Originally posted by Me4Him:
When I was "growing up" (50's) my GMother always said if the adults aren't saved then God would take the Children, but either way, God would have his kingdom "full".
Abortion is allowed because Adults aren't saved and the Children are being taken to full the Kingdom.
She also said every times a child went to heaven under these condition, the child was taking the place of an adult who could have gone.
It's because "Adults" are unsaved and support the "laws of Hell" that abortion/evil prevails, Children die.
If Adults supported the "laws of God", then both Adults/Children could go to heaven.
But as you can see, either way, God's Kingdom will be "full", whatever that number may be.
Remember, my Gmother's "prophecy" was about 15-20 years before abortion.
No one said anything about "GOD PROMOTING" abortion, God only collects the souls of "innocent blood" as the result of murder.Originally posted by Helen:
God promoting abortion is also God promoting murder. This goes against His commandments. God does not contradict Himself.
I'll accept that, at least until you're "wise" enough to recognize your "mistake".Originally posted by npetreley:
LOL! I am *SO* tempted to accuse you of saying God is the author of abortion. It would be poetic justice, but I'll refrain.[/QB]
God knew in advance ABOUT every person before the foundation of the world. God FOREKNOWS (as in knows intimately) only the elect.Originally posted by Paul33:
God foreknows every person before the foundation of the world. He foreknows some to be in Christ and others to be outside of Christ.
...as opposed to...For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren. 30 Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified.
“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
Evidently not many have "meditated" on the scriptures long enough to see how they apply here in the "real world" either.Originally posted by Brother Bob:
I think I was the first to ask this question and it sure started a debate among us all and caused us to really look inside of ourselves. I just wanted to put "real life" situations to predestinated to go to Heaven or Hell.
And if God through his "Sovereign will",.."predestined".. the abortion doctor to murder the babies, then the "SIN" belongs to God not the doctor,Originally posted by Rippon:
If the Lord doesn't know someone He did not foreknow them -- they are not among the elect , they are not among His sheep -- they are in-fact goats . Take a look at Matthew 25:31-46 .