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BACON, the New Five Points

Dr. Bob

Dr. Bob

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Amy.G said:
:laugh: Yes, but the stripper isn't. :eek:
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HEY! I resemble that remark!!

And (in passing) 3 eggs, wheat toast, half a grapefruit, hashbrowns, a cuppa joe and 5 strips sounds like Breakfast.

Or, if the wife reads the post, a small bowl of All-Bran with fat free milk and herbal tea.
 
Skandelon

Skandelon

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Ok, now that I've had my snack, its my turn:

B - Bad People but God's Appeal is Stronger than their badness (Rm 1:16)
A - Already Elect because God has already elected to draw all men to himself (John 12:32)
C - Completely Atoned for because God has completely atoned not only for our sins, but for the sins of the whole world. (1 Jn 2:2)
O - Overwhelmingly Called yet some remain guilty because they traded the truth in for lies and are thus without any excuse. They rebel even in the face of God's clear revelation. (Rom 1)
N - Never Falling Away because upon our believing we are sealed by the Spirit who guarantees our inheritance. (Eph. 1)

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Fred's Wife

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Skandelon said:
Ok, now that I've had my snack, its my turn:

B - Bad People but God's Appeal is Stronger than their badness (Rm 1:16)
A - Already Elect because God has already elected to draw all men to himself (John 12:32)
C - Completely Atoned for because God has completely atoned not only for our sins, but for the sins of the whole world. (1 Jn 2:2)
O - Overwhelmingly Called yet some remain guilty because they traded the truth in for lies and are thus without any excuse. They rebel even in the face of God's clear revelation. (Rom 1)
N - Never Falling Away because upon our believing we are sealed by the Spirit who guarantees our inheritance. (Eph. 1)

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Dr. Bob

Dr. Bob

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LOL at the lame attempts of the semi-pelagian/arminian types who can't handle bacon.

Jesus elects man to come but man is way more powerful than God so tells God off and rejects His election and God DOES lose some. God lies.

See how offensive false teaching is and what it does to God Who is in control and not the man-god they teach?
 
Skandelon

Skandelon

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Dr. Bob said:
LOL at the lame attempts of the semi-pelagian/arminian types who can't handle bacon.
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Yet, who is the one who provided textual support for their views and who didn't? Revealing.

Jesus elects man to come but man is way more powerful than God so tells God off and rejects His election and God DOES lose some. God lies.
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Do you really think this is what we believe? REALLY? No wonder you are a Calvinist. I would be too if this is what I believed about non-Calvinists. If you are going to oppose us, fine, but at least have the courtesy to learn what we believe and represent it correctly.

See how offensive false teaching is and what it does to God Who is in control and not the man-god they teach?
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The 'man-god' ??? REEEEEEally? And you are an Admin? You don't find such comments inflammatory? Shame on you brother. You, of all people, should know better. I'm quite certain if someone referred to Calvinists as believing in a 'fatalistic-god' or a 'puppet-master god' or a 'unjust god' you wouldn't stand for it...or maybe you would? Maybe you find it perfectly acceptable to not so subtly suggest that other brethren follow a lower case "g" god and thus are not following the true God??? Is that now acceptable behavior on this forum Bob?
 
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Dr. Bob

Dr. Bob

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Some make man into 'god' (hence the small 'g') by their theology. Others allow God to be God.

Who is in charge or sovereign in the universe? The pelagian heresy makes man in charge and sovereign. The drama comes from those who are semi-pelagian and many of my friends on the BB drift into that category. They make God half powerful and make man into a mini 'god'.

That is a problem - but I allow each to put themselves into the theological framework of their own design.
 
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humblethinker

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Dr. Bob said:
Since you can't eat TULIP's, real men are now aligning with the BACON movement.

Bad People
Already Elect
Completely Atoned For
Overwhelmingly Called
Never Falling Away

We have to still work on our label. We are "Five Strippers" and that sounds a little racey . .
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LOL! You're hilarious!:thumbsup: hmmm... BACON! I could definately have me some of that!
 
agedman

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I wonder if the farmer having spent too much time with the pigs in the pen got "high" on the hogs?
 
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Yeshua1

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Skandelon said:
Ok, now that I've had my snack, its my turn:

B - Bad People but God's Appeal is Stronger than their badness (Rm 1:16)

the call of God is irrestistable to those whom he has foreknown and predestined to being saved in/by Christ!
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A - Already Elect because God has already elected to draw all men to himself (John 12:32)

God has elected and chosen to save all those whom Christ died for!
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C - Completely Atoned for because God has completely atoned not only for our sins, but for the sins of the whole world. (1 Jn 2:2)

Death of jesus was propiation for sins of those whom God elected to be saved by it!
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O - Overwhelmingly Called yet some remain guilty because they traded the truth in for lies and are thus without any excuse. They rebel even in the face of God's clear revelation. (Rom 1)

ALL who get saved is due to the Will of God, not the will of man!
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N - Never Falling Away because upon our believing we are sealed by the Spirit who guarantees our inheritance. (Eph. 1)

Due to the predestination and power of God to forever keep us!
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just wanted to make clean up your points a bit, bibilically speaking!
 
Skandelon

Skandelon

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So many contradictions and so little time... :tonofbricks:

Dr. Bob said:
Some make man into 'god' (hence the small 'g') by their theology.
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So, you are saying your theological system would NEVER compare men to gods, and ours would? Ok, so now let's see which system best lines up with scripture:

"I said, 'You are "gods"; you are all sons of the Most High.' -Ps. 82:6

"Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are gods' ? If he called them 'gods,' to whom the word of God came--and the Scripture cannot be broken--" -Jesus (Jn 10:35)

For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many "gods" and many "lords")(1 Cor. 8:5)​
Obviously, not a one of us here thinks we are God, and He is the only true YAWEY (GOD). However, we are compared to Him in that we were created in "HIS IMAGE" and are made "a little lower than the angles." So, we are certainly not on the same level as animals (though the deterministic view of human will sounds strangely similar to that of animal instinct, so I can understand how you might think the way you do).

More to your point, our view is that it was God's sovereign choice to give men such freedom and thus responsibilities, thus if true even our freedom would be a result of divine sovereignty...something you don't seem to understand.

Others allow God to be God.
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Right, because only your view of God could actually be God....question beg much?

Who is in charge or sovereign in the universe?
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God. And you don't seem to think he is powerful enough to have created free moral creatures while maintaining His sovereignty. You seem to believe that Sovereignty can only be contained in a being who controls both the good and evil choices in this world. He must play both sides of the chess board to ensure victory, because he is just too weak to win any kind of real victory against an actual independent enemy. Your view of God seems much weaker than mine....but then again maybe that's just the man-god in me talking. :saint:

The pelagian heresy makes man in charge and sovereign.
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While I reject pelagianism too, you have to admit that is a gross overstatement. Pelagianism just denies the biblical doctrine of Original Sin and maintains that people are born innocent. It never claims men are 'in charge or sovereign.'

The drama comes from those who are semi-pelagian and many of my friends on the BB drift into that category. They make God half powerful and make man into a mini 'god'.
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Again you beg the question by presuming that it wasn't God's will for men to have this ability and thus 'responsibility' or "power." Is a man less strong if he chooses to allow his daughter to freely obey him when he calls for here to sit down at the table? Has his daughter now taken away half of his muscles simply because he doesn't chose to use physical force? Come now Dr. Bob, you know better. If God has CHOSEN to give men this power/ability/responsibility then even THAT is His prerogative as God. So, I'd suggest you let Him be God.

That is a problem - but I allow each to put themselves into the theological framework of their own design.
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Awwww, so you are giving up your power as an Admin by 'allowing each to put themselves into the theological framework of their own design?" You must be because if you have the power to irresistibly expel those of us who don't agree with you and you don't use that power then clearly, by your own reasoning, you must be giving up your power. We are all little "a" admins now! :smilewinkgrin:
 
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Tom Butler

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kyredneck said:
BACON. I love it! :thumbsup:

....and I'm a 'five stripper' too! 'Just right' for a hearty meal.
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Some folks say they are four-point Calvinists.

Could there be such a thing as a four-strip Baconist?

Or, would one have to be a five-stripper to be a true Baconist?
 
webdog

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Dr. Bob said:
LOL at the lame attempts of the semi-pelagian/arminian types who can't handle bacon.

Jesus elects man to come but man is way more powerful than God so tells God off and rejects His election and God DOES lose some. God lies.

See how offensive false teaching is and what it does to God Who is in control and not the man-god they teach?
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LOL at the lame attempts of the muslim-sovereignty-understanding / determinist types who cannot handle a more concise explanation of bacon.

Jesus elects man to come but is not powerful enough to do so without the additional and separate work of the Holy Spirit, making those unregenerated people reject His appeal. God lies.

See how offensive false teaching is and what it does to God who decrees evil making him the god of Islam?

Just thought one profitable post deserved another...or maybe I was predestined to type it.
 
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Tom Butler

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webdog said:
I don't know, a con? :D
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Heh, heh.

There are some one-point Calvinists. Could there be a one-strip Baconist? Seems to me that wouldn't be very satisfying.

By the way, web, would it be fair to describe you as a Skandelon Baconist, as opposed to a Griffin Bacoist?
 
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webdog

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Tom Butler said:
Heh, heh.

There are some one-point Calvinists. Could there be a one-strip Baconist? Seems to me that wouldn't be very satisfying.

By the way, web, would it be fair to describe you as a Skandelon Baconist, as opposed to a Griffin Bacoist?
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That would be a fair description...but I would prefer biblical baconist ;)
 
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