Baptismal Salvation?

[OldRegular]

Were you trusting in Christ the first time?

I believe that there are saved Arminians and Calvinists.

I KNOW im saved and I believe in Man's free will to choose or reject salvation, I also believe in Eternal security though, I'm probably an oddball on this site as I've noticed most on here are Predestination OSAS Calvinists or they are Arminians who believe you can lost salvation.

Actually most Baptists are One Point Calvinist at least; that is the Eternal Security of the Believer!

 

[Jordan Kurecki]

20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ: 1 Pet 3

That's pretty plain, don't you think? There is a 'salvation' in water baptism in this passage also.

Were the 8 souls literally saved by water? no they weren't they were saved by the Ark which is a picture of Christ. so it wasn't that they were saved from judgement, the Water separated them from the wickedness of the world at the time of Noah in the same way Baptism is the first step of obedience and first step we take in sanctification to be used by God, so when we are baptized we are making a declaration not to live our lives in habitual sin anymore, so in this way, Baptism separates (saves) us from the wickedness of this world in the same way the water separated(saved) Noah and his family from the wickedness of the world.

It even says that it's not even the putting away of the filth of the flesh (water baptism) but the answer of a good conscience toward God ( Step of obedience toward God) How can you have a good conscience if your sins have not yet been forgiven?

 

[franklinmonroe]

20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ: 1 Pet 3 ...

Noah& family were only figuratively "saved by water" (actually saved by God). See the words "like figure" in 21 that applies to believer's baptism?

 

[Zenas]

The second part of the verse clarifies that "but he that disbelieveth shall be condemned." It does NOT say 'but he that is unbaptised shall be condemned.' So, what is crucial to avoid condemnation? Belief! That's pretty plain, don't you think?

No, I don't think so. You are saying in effect, "Take out the words "and has been baptized" and you don't change the meaning. In other words, this:

He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned.

means the same thing as this:

He who has believed shall be saved; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned.

Do you really think so? And if it does mean the same, why would our Lord include these words that have had the effect of confusing countless thousands of people over two millennia?