Baptist Hermeneutics

Are we to follow Christ or men? I was speaking about being confounded. If a man has the Holy Spirit he does not need men to tell him what scripture means. That is what the Holy Spirit does.
MB

 

I know there are certain things that can be hard to understand. I rely on my God for explanations. I cannot rely on men for interpretation. For me it would be like going to a Catholic church and relying on every word of the priest..
MB

 

So, you missed all of it, as if it were never Written?

 

So, the entire verse and its meaning are oblivious to you?

 

God also give to us gifted teachers/preachers/pastors to expound on the Bible, correct?

 

And, if they tell you this verse means,

"Smile America, God Loves you,
Don't Worry, Be Happy"?, is that it?

Is that pretty close to what you see God Saying, there?

 

I see many very good questions to explore in this thread.

1) To be "in Christ" is to be "spiritually alive" and to be not "in Christ" is to be spiritually dead. Thus we start out spiritually dead, and are made alive when God puts us into Christ. This view was said to reflect unsound or unsupported interpretation. But actually those who deny this obvious truth are using unsound and unsupported interpretation.

2) Do the qualifications for church leaders reflect their post conversion actions and attributes, or would Paul be unqualified because he helped to murder Steven.

3) One of the keys to avoiding eisegesis is to ask "what is the least this verse or passage is saying?" If a person sees "the things" in the text and then interprets it to mean "all the things" the person is engaging in eisegesis.

 

In some way, I thought everyone was just avoiding the text, entirely, and not committing to it having anything to say.

". . . Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded. . . ." -- 1 Peter 2:6

doesn't mean,

"Smile America, God Loves you,
Don't Worry, Be Happy"?

...to you, does it?

 

I'm well aware of that.

Currently, there are three "Baptist" viewpoints on Scripture nowadays...

1) The "Calvinistic Baptist" viewpoint.
Think Charles Haddon Spurgeon, Rolfe Barnard, Henry Mahan, Don Fortner, etc.

2) The "Traditionalist Baptist" viewpoint.
Think Billy Graham, Billy Sunday, J. Frank Norris, John R. Rice, Adrian Rogers, Jack Hyles, etc.

3) The "Free Will" Baptist viewpoint,.
I d n't know any of their names.

 

Don't you trust that God has the right answer

does not pertain to the subject besides like always it's your assumption
MB

 

Yeah, subjects are not your thing.

Psychology, maybe.

Mentally and emotionally:

"...he that believeth on him shall not be confounded. . . ." -- 1 Peter 2:6

just means,

"Smile America, God Loves you,
Don't Worry, Be Happy"?

...

 

No, are you saying that Paul never was inspired to write that God has given those gifted men to the church then?

 

I Peter 2:6 doesn't have any Gifted men in it. What verse are you talking about.

There is an extra-Biblical, Hermenutical error that prevents any rational discussion of a majority of The New Testament.

Of all the times 'church' is mentioned, it means, 'called-out assembly' and never has any other usage.

Let's go ahead and call that 'a church novice' and drop it. There is nothing to discuss regarding a church, when someone has no Biblical understanding of a church.

I am stupid to keep going through things that pertain to The Lord's Churches and if anyone here knows what one is, I haven't seen it.

They'll always say, "oh, yeah, but this", because they haven't seen it right.

We wind up talking about toy 'churches' men invented, or 'the church', which does not exist in Reality, so it's pure ignorance.

What is you question?

I can only answer it, Biblically, so it may have no application to that with which you think is going on.

 

Did God give to us gifted teachers and theologians to help us understanding the Bible better?

 

God Gives Stars in The Right Hand of Jesus, to His Candlesticks.

Where are you getting this question?

Something to do with me?

 

You seem to be saying that we just need the Bible and the Holy Spirit period!

 

God Gives Stars in The Right Hand of Jesus, to His Candlesticks.

 

I take that as affirmative!