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Baptist? OSAS? pretrib or post-trib?

Which of the following to you believe?

  • non-Baptist + OSAS + post-trib

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • non-Baptist + non-OSAS + pretrib

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    48
  • Poll closed .

EdSutton

New Member
Pigeonholing, Ed Edwards! I have very definite views, and I think fairly conventional, and I'd also say pretty much in agreement with you, but, I am not going to define my beliefs by a word, an abbreviation, and a set of initials.

Even though "Two 'Eds are better than one!"

Ed
 

Ed Edwards

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Thank you first 13 voters for helping.
I timed this, so in four months it will close.
Get your friends & relatives to vote.
(I even have a no-vote vote for people
who are still working on the matter).

Againt, thank you.
 

Ed Edwards

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Thank you first 22 voters for helping.
I timed this, so in four months it will close.
Get your friends & relatives to vote.
(I even have a no-vote vote for people
who are still working on the matter).

Again, thank you !!
 

StefanM

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
I'm Baptist, OSAS (although I prefer "perseverance of the saints" a la Calvin, though I'm not a Calvinist), and mid-trib.

With my definition of the Great Tribulation (3.5 years), I'm pre-trib, but using the standard 7 year understanding, I'm mid-trib.
 

David Lamb

Well-Known Member
Ed Edwards said:
Which of the following to you believe?

Baptist?
OSAS?
pretrib or post-trib?

OSAS = Once Saved Always Saved is being discussed here:

http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=42390&page=26

Pretribulation rapture/resurrection is being discussed here:

http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=43965&page=9

All we are going to discuss in this topic
is which triplets of beliefs fit together to
make logical/Biblical sense.

I ticked "Not any three of those", because I am a baptist, I do believe that when Jesus Christ saves a sinner, that person stays saved, but I believe that the tribulation is the church age.
 

David Lamb

Well-Known Member
BobRyan said:
So you are post-trib?

Not if this from Wikipedia is correct (and I recognise that Wikipedia is not always reliable):
This doctrine holds that there is a Resurrection-Rapture of living believers in Jesus Christ at the end of the age (or the "End times"). Posttribulationists believe that Christians won't be taken up into (the 3rd) Heaven at the rapture, but will be gathered by the angels to meet Christ in the air, then return with him to enter the millennium on earth.

But if by post-trib you just mean that Christ's Second Coming will occur after the tribulation, I would agree.
 

Doubting Thomas

Active Member
Up until about 6-7 years ago I was always "Baptist+OSAS+pre-trib". Then over the course of the next 3-4 years, I gradually became post-trib, non-OSAS, and non-Baptist, in that order.
 

Ed Edwards

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David Lamb said:
Not if this from Wikipedia is correct (and I recognise that Wikipedia is not always reliable):
This doctrine holds that there is a Resurrection-Rapture of living believers in Jesus Christ at the end of the age (or the "End times"). Posttribulationists believe that Christians won't be taken up into (the 3rd) Heaven at the rapture, but will be gathered by the angels to meet Christ in the air, then return with him to enter the millennium on earth.

But if by post-trib you just mean that Christ's Second Coming will occur after the tribulation, I would agree.

Most pretribulation rapture2 folk believe in a post-tribulation
resurrection2. That is why for precision I mention a seperate
believe I call 'post-tribulation resurrection2 ONLY'-ism (But
most people call to confuse 'post-tribulation Second Coming'.

Again, Sorry to use a lot of definitions but I've been talking to
people about this on bbs (bulletin boards) alone for 23 years,
not counting FTF (face-to-face).

(I use '1', '2', & '3' etc so there is a difference in the word -
to help avoid confusion).
most people just use the two words without specifing which
definition they are using - this is confusing)

ressurrection1 - When Jesus changes a dead saint to
a living saint and gives them a new body

rapture1 -- When Jesus changes a living saint to
to a new body

resurrection2 - a one each, 48-hour-day event (often called the
'Second Coming of Jesus') at the end of the Tribulation Period
and the beginning of a physical Millennial Messanic kingdom
in which Jesus performs a resurrection1 closely followed by
a rapture1

rapture2 - a one each, 48-hour-day event (often called the
'Second Coming of Jesus for His own') at the end of
the Church Age (aka: timesof the Gentiles)
and the beginning of the Tribulation Period
in which Jesus performs a resurrection1 closely followed by
a rapture1

resurrection3 - a resurrection of unjust folk
 

BobRyan

Well-Known Member
David Lamb said:
I ticked "Not any three of those", because I am a baptist, I do believe that when Jesus Christ saves a sinner, that person stays saved, but I believe that the tribulation is the church age.


Are you post-Trib???

since you claim the church-age is the age of the great trib (a good fit with Matt 24 "AFTER the tribulation of those days ...He will gather His elect)

since you are not already raptured...

You must believe in a post trib rapture and resurrection at the 2nd coming.




David Lamb said:
Not if this from Wikipedia is correct (and I recognise that Wikipedia is not always reliable):
This doctrine holds that there is a Resurrection-Rapture of living believers in Jesus Christ at the end of the age (or the "End times"). Posttribulationists believe that Christians won't be taken up into (the 3rd) Heaven at the rapture, but will be gathered by the angels to meet Christ in the air, then return with him to enter the millennium on earth.





But if by post-trib you just mean that Christ's Second Coming will occur after the tribulation, I would agree.

Wait a second!! Are you ME???:laugh:

Post Trib Second coming.

Saints raptured up to heaven at the second coming.
Dead saints resurrected at the 2nd coming and taken to heaven.

John 14:1-4 promise fulfilled!

(There is an entire denomination nof "ME" -- how about you? Are your beliefs held by your church as well?)

in Christ,

Bob
 
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Ed Edwards

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Here is the current 'score':

---------------------------
25 Oct 2004

http://www.baptistboard.com/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=2024

Which of the following to you believe?
This poll will close on 02-17-2008 at 05:42 PM

15 46.88% == Baptist + OSAS + pretrib
03 09.38% == Baptist + OSAS + post-trib
00 00.00% == Baptist + non-OSAS + pretrib
03 09.38% == Baptist + non-OSAS + post-trib
00 00.00% == non-Baptist + OSAS + pretrib
00 00.00% == non-Baptist + OSAS + post-trib
00 00.00% == non-Baptist + non-OSAS + pretrib
03 09.38% == non-Baptist + non-OSAS + post-trib
07 21.88% == not any three of those
01 03.13% == say what?

Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 32.
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Ed Edwards

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Squire Robertsson said:
On the matter of OSAS, a person can't lose what they never had in the first place.

Amen, Brother Squire Robertsson -- Preach it! :thumbs:

That is the meaning of the 'OS' part of "OSAS" --
Once Saved = OS.

(OSAS = Once Saved, Always Saved)
Ed notices that Once Saved is by Jesus;
Always Saved is by Jesus.
Neither is by works, lest we go around bosting
a lot. :(


 
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