Baptist View on Capitol Punishment

[Jim1999]

castration is not effective. Better check out the roots of pedophilia....sex is not even the factor governing it,any more than sex is the root of rape.

Cheers,

Jim

 

[ReformedBaptist]

The State has the authority and the right to render capital punishment, therefore I believe the right should be exercised for the safety of the citizens and as a deterrent to crime. If other criminals do not learn from it, the vermin that committed the crime, worthy of execution, will not be able to do it again.
Ecclesiastes 8:11 Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil.

Excellent Scripture. Gonna look the full passage up. Thanks.

 

[rbell]

castration is not effective. Better check out the roots of pedophilia....sex is not even the factor governing it,any more than sex is the root of rape.

Cheers,

Jim

Evidence, please? This is a truism that is often quoted, but never backed up.

Is it simply a glandular problem? Of course not. But it's a medical fact that castrated animals and humans are less agressive. And no--it's not about sex. But if reduced agression is gained, we all win.

Well...at least most all. But hey...if a person wants to keep the equipment, leave kids alone.

Science is on my side, not yours.

 

[Alcott]

Killing someone, or supporting their death, does not show mercy and/or perfect patience.

And neither does "life sentence without parole." So why do you advocate that?

 

[sag38]

Because that's the ill-conceived logic of pacifism.

 

[canadyjd]

And neither does "life sentence without parole." So why do you advocate that?

I disagree.

If the choice is the death penalty or life without parole, the latter is the choice of mercy and prudence.

If a person murders (or molests chidren for that matter), it is prudent for society to have in place a mechanism to protect itself from the predators. Anarchy would follow if no such mechanism were in place.

Certainly the Roms. 13 passage is relevant in that governments should protect its citizens from such people who do evil. That governments use captial punishment to that end is without argument.

The question for Christians, however, is should they support the taking of human life (made in the image of God despite their sins)? I have shown from scripture that they should not. Being unwilling to support taking a person's life, even the worst of sinners, demonstrates mercy and perfect patience.

Supporting life in prison without parole demonstrates prudence and an awareness of our function as members within society. We should not put at risk ourselves, our children, our neighbors or their children, by not removing predators from our midst, forever.

Jesus Christ has never commanded that Christians do so, that I can find.

In fact, He told us to be "as wise as serpeants and as innocent as doves".

Therefore, I don't support the death penalty (as it violates Christ's command to show mercy and perfect patience), and I do support life in prison without parole (because it demonstrates wise and prudent behavior).

peace to youraying:

 

[sag38]

Paul, himself, is a follower of Jesus and yet he is the one who wrote of the sword that has been given to the government to deal with evil people and to sometimes enact the death penalty. Is the government not run by people to include Christians? Did the Philippian jailer stop being the jailer when he was saved. Did Roman soldiers who were believers stop being soldiers? No, the didn't. Your case is built on personal conviction but it's not based on sound Biblical exegesis. You cannot make your case based simply on the red letters in the Bible. They are all God's word and must be interpreted in light of one another.

 

[Jerome]

Who was it that said...

"It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones."

 

[Jim1999]

Whilst there are eternal truths in scripture, many are also given to a particular period in time. Those times have changed. The governmental systems have changed. We no longer sit under the Roman Empire.

Please understand scripture in that light. We can make changes, including the death penalty, and still be biblical in essence.

Cheers,

Jim

 

[sag38]

Yes, I couldn't agree more that we can make changes. We need to use the death penalty more.

 

[kyredneck]

Yes, I couldn't agree more that we can make changes. We need to use the death penalty more.

IMO, that is the correct course to follow when dealing with the sociopathic mind. It's been proven from >100 years of criminal psychology, they'll never be anything but.

 

[TC]

I am for the death penalty and believe it should be used more - and you can quote me on that. One of my favorite movie lines is a western in which the sheriff says that "we are going to have a fair trial followed by a speedy hanging" - not years and years and years, etc, etc, etc, ... of appeals.

 

[Mississippi John]

State sponsored killing is .............tacky.

Life in the pen has got to be worse.



That said....My sinful self would want a revenge killin' if it was MY loved one...just being honest. But, I'd probably do it myself, if able.