Beheading Videos

[JamesL]

Well James, it should be patently clear by now, you are simply better and more spiritually mature than most of us. You obviously have greater control over your human emotions and the like.

Is that your way of excusing yourself from what God has called every believer to?

 

[quantumfaith]

Is that your way of excusing yourself from what God has called every believer to?

Its my way of being totally honest and genuine.

 

[Benjamin]

All’s I got to say is that when and if it ever comes down to facing overwhelming odds by terrorists I hope those standing beside me are NOT one of those who believe they’ve been predestined to glorify God by obediently surrendering their head to them!

 

[JamesL]

Its my way of being totally honest and genuine.

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You consider it honest and genuine to become snide with someone who has over and over again posted a wide array of scripture from various writers, all saying exactly the same thing?

 

[JamesL]

All’s I got to say is that when and if it ever comes down to facing overwhelming odds by terrorists I hope those standing beside me are NOT one of those who believe they’ve been predestined to glorify God by obediently surrendering their head to them!

Does it matter to you what the scriptures say? I can post another 15-20 passages saying the same thing.

 

[Benjamin]

Does it matter to you what the scriptures say? I can post another 15-20 passages saying the same thing.

James, you're cherry-picking and reading things into the scriptures which aren't there. The scriptures have a lot more to teach than just obediently surrendering your head to the enemy. For instance:

David, the man after God's own heart faced up to overwhelming odds in faith that he would be victorious.

Besides this, your reasoning follows along with the same pattern you use to support your scriptural interpretations:

Those guys are not resisting because they have not received a spirit of fear.

You're merely question begging here. Many things could play into why these men didn't resist. Culture, threats of beatings and torture, etc.

Resistance is nothing but an outworking of fear.

Give me a break. Resistance is built upon many things.

But they have been predestined to be conformed to His image.

I may have to start a new thread: “Predestination” - the Calvinists’ Scapegoat for their Actions?

 

[quantumfaith]

Does it matter to you what the scriptures say? I can post another 15-20 passages saying the same thing.

Yes James, I was snarky....in response to your HTT pontificating snarkiness.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

JI may have to start a new thread: “Predestination” - the Calvinists’ Scapegoat for their Actions?

Or inaction.

 

[JamesL]

Yes James, I was snarky....in response to your HTT pontificating snarkiness.

Ok, I'll play along. I'm 10x holier than you.
Does my self righteousness negate God's word?

In my desire to make myself holier than you, have I misrepresented several half-chapters of scripture?


Regardless of whatever charge you can level against me, you haven't offered anything from scripture to indicate that I'm promoting a false view.

 

[JamesL]

James, you're cherry-picking and reading things into the scriptures which aren't there.

Cherry picking. Yup.

How about you start with a half chapter I quoted, Romans 8.

Show everybody how erratic Paul was in his writing. How he certainly couldn't have been talking about the same thing all the way through.

Show how I cherry picked one verse after the other.

The scriptures have a lot more to teach than just obediently surrendering your head to the enemy

Have I said anything to the contrary? I'm sure you can quote it if I have....right?

 

[OldRegular]

Is that your way of excusing yourself from what God has called every believer to?

God through the Apostle Paul tells us:

Romans 12:18. If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.

John Gill, who I expect endured a measure of persecution for the Lord Jesus Christ, comments on this verse as follows:

Ver. 18. If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably, &c.] Or be at peace, seek after peace, pursue it, and cultivate it:

with all men; with those that we are immediately concerned with, in a natural relation; so husbands should live peaceably with their wives, and wives with their husbands; parents with their children, and children with their parents; masters with their servants, and servants with their masters; and one brother, relation, and friend, with another: and so with all we are concerned with in a spiritual relation, as members of Christ, and in the same church state; such should be at peace among themselves, 1Th 5:13; peace should rule in their hearts, Col 3:15, and they should study to keep "the unity of the Spirit, in the bond of peace", Eph 4:3: yea, with all we are concerned in a civil sense; saints should live peaceably in the neighbourhood, towns, cities, and countries, where they dwell, and show themselves to be the quiet in the land; should pray for the peace of the place where they are; and do all that in them lies to promote it, by living themselves peaceably and quietly, in all godliness and honesty; yea, they should live peaceably with their very enemies, "if it be possible"; which is rightly put, for there are some persons of such tempers and dispositions, that it is impossible to live peaceably with; for when others are for peace, they are for war; and in some cases it is not only impracticable, but would be unlawful; as when it cannot be done consistent with holiness of life and conversation, with the edification of others, the truths of the Gospel, the interest of religion, and the glory of God; these are things that are never to be sacrificed for the sake of peace with men: the apostle adds another limitation of this rule, "as much as lieth in you"; for more than this is not required of us; nothing should be wanting on our parts; every step should be taken to cultivate and maintain peace; the blame should lie wholly on the other side; it becomes the saints to live peaceably themselves, if others will not with them.

The bolded part above is particularly significant since we are facing an "antichrist"!

James if the country followed your opinion after 1941 we would likely be "goose stepping" or "worshipping the Emperor of Japan".

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[JamesL]

James if the country followed your opinion after 1941 we would likely be "goose stepping" or "worshipping the Emperor of Japan".

The country ???

You think America is the New Israel? Theocracy?
This country is not the Promised Land, Americans aren't God's "chosen people"

So if a country chock full of godless people worship an Emperor, what business is that to Christians?

Oh, that's right. Christians live here, too. And we would fall down before the king, just like Daniel did. He worshiped Nebuchadnezzar in Babylon, and we would do the same.

But Daniel didn't do that. He trusted God, even in the Lions' den

 

[Bro. Curtis]

You must got spring-loaded boots.

 

[OldRegular]

The country ???

You think America is the New Israel? Theocracy?

You have no excuse for insulting me James. I simply made an observation.

This country is not the Promised Land,

I strongly disagree with you there James. I believe this country is the greatest country in history. Perhaps you are letting a little of Obama rub off on you!

Americans aren't God's "chosen people"

I never said they were but I expect that in 1940's the majority of people in this country were at least professing Christians.

So if a country chock full of godless people worship an Emperor, what business is that to Christians?

Well James, it makes a big difference to me whether it does to you or not.

Oh, that's right. Christians live here, too. And we would fall down before the king, just like Daniel did. He worshiped Nebuchadnezzar in Babylon, and we would do the same.

You are the one who has been preaching:

Resistance is the result of fear.

We are called to suffer with Christ.

If God purposes to save me from a calamity, He will let me know.

Trust Him, brother. You won't need a rifle when He's called you to it

You should read the book before making such bold assertions.

But Daniel didn't do that. He trusted God, even in the Lions' den

But you are mistaken Daniel did resist the king!

I trust God also James and if he calls me to stretch my neck so an antichrist can get a clean swipe to behead me I hope I will be obedient. But in all honesty He would have to give ma a lot stronger heart than I have before I could live long enough to do it!

But it is a lot easier, JamesL, being self righteous in a country where Christians have not known persecution than in a country where they are routinely butchered!

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[corndogggy]

I have an odd feeling that anyone who looks at stuff like this never saw combat.

I know multiple combat vets from recent wars that watch most all of them then share and explain them on facebook as to raise awareness and get other people just as ticked as they are.

 

[corndogggy]

Those guys...ISIS...are cowards. Why dress in solid black and conceal their identities?

That's not really what it's about. There are plenty of ISIS videos with guys who don't have a mask on. I'd explain but you can google easily enough.