Lol, nice.
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Being religious vs. being spiritual
- Thread starter Crabtownboy
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More like true spirtuality is being saved by faith alone grace alone!
You don't have faith if you're disobedient. Read this and understand.
Obeying the lord would evidence having already been saved, not how to get saved!
Yes. You must continue in the terms of the covenant to which you were redeemed (bought back). If you don't, then salvation unto eternal life is in jeopardy.
Mat 7:22 “Many shall say to Me in that day, ‘Master, Master, have we not prophesied in Your Name, and cast out demons in Your Name, and done many mighty works in Your Name?’
Mat 7:23 “And then I shall declare to them, ‘I never knew you, depart from Me, you who work lawlessness!’
Those were people NEVEr saved!
And we are under the New, not Old Covenant!
Jesus NEVER knew them in a saving way!
Why not? You said they aren't under law and they clearly believe. What makes you different?
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They did NOT believe in Jesus in a relationship saving way, AS Jesus claimed he never knew them as his own!
I agree. But how do you have relationship with Jesus? Belief is not enough?
We are saved due to the trutht hat Jesus died for all of our sins. and when we recveive Him by faith as our Lord, at that moment we get saved!
But these people were doing things for him and in his name. They believed too! Why weren't they accepted like you think you are? I dont get it
They would be like the people today who have gone to church a long time, knew some bible, and yet never has the real Jesus and a real relationship with him, think <ormons and JW for example!
I'm sorry, but you missed the answer given in the verse:
‘I never knew you, depart from Me, you who work lawlessness!’
It is the torah breakers (lawless) who don't know Him. It is those who are kicked out:
1Jn_2:3 And by this we know that we know Him, if we guard His commands.1 Footnote: 1See 3:6.
1Jn_2:4 The one who says, “I know Him,” and does not guard His commands, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
Knowing Him = Keeping His Word (torah, commandments)1Jn_2:4 The one who says, “I know Him,” and does not guard His commands, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
Not knowing Him = break torah (lawless)
This is Scripture 101 - take heed.
How many sins did the death of Jesus not atone for then? I can not keep myself saved by keeping the law, as the Law is no longer in place over me!
You're not under the king's decrees? Insolence...
Yeshua whipes the slate clean but you must walk orderly afterward so you don't fall back into death. Repent and sin no more
Yeshua blood/death covers ALL of my sins that I will ever commit in this life!
Wow. I hope you never become a mass murderer then since you have no penalty for evil. You scare me
Jason, you have utterly failed YHWH. You have no atonement left for you. You are in an utterly hopeless place. It's so sad.