Ascetic X
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In this case, the people who fell backward were not seeking a blessing, but were there to do evil to Jesus, to arrest Him.
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Being slain in the Spirt
- Thread starter Salty
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I don’t see the similarity. Those people were there to arrest the Lord. The people in church profess to be worshiping the Lord. No comparison.
Ascetic X
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There is no similarity between current slaying in the spirit nonsense and people who came to arrest Jesus falling backwards.
There is no evidence in the Bible of laying hands on individuals and them falling backwards in a paralyzed or trance state.
While some try to connect it to revival scenes in the 18th and 19th centuries, such as the Cane Ridge Revival of 1801 where people swooned, shouted, or fell under emotional intensity, the specific language and ritual of being “slain in the Spirit” was popularized in the 1960s and 1970s through the Pentecostal and later Charismatic movements. Figures like Kathryn Kuhlman and later Benny Hinn made it central to their ministries, turning it into a visible “sign” of the Spirit’s presence.
Historically, it is not found in the Apostolic era, nor in the early church fathers, but emerges much later as a phenomenon in revivalist and charismatic culture.
Why it is not biblical — there is no command, no promise, and no consistent example in Scripture of believers being pushed down or falling backward as a normative sign of the Spirit’s power.
The Pentecostal movement officially began in Topeka Kansas in 1901 when Agnes Osmond (not sure about the spelling) spoke in tongues at Charles Parham's Beth-el Bible college in an all night tarrying meeting, according to some. This is the same year that the ASB was published, the beginning of the attack in America. It is hard to say what was the more destructive movement but my vote is for the translations, paraphrase, etc. because they have an affect on all churches. There must have been some kind of spiritual transition in the heavenlies along about that time.
That is my take on it and now few seems to believe the words in the Bibles nor do they discern context and divisions.
Cannot believe you went here from the truth of the errors in Pentecostalism to equate that with KJVO position as the main explanation
I guess there may be instances of it being real. What I have personally seen sure had a lot of signs of being fake. (Looking to make sure catcher was there before falling, etc)
I can't say for sure though.
From a book published in 1878:
"There was in attendance at one of these Camp Meetings, a Baptist gentleman, who, for many years, had delighted in criticising his Methodist neighbors on account of their noisy meetings, their shouting, and their sometimes falling, like men slain in battle, under the influence of the presence and power of God. Under a searching sermon, preached at 11 o'clock A. M., Sabbath, this brother was smitten by the Holy Spirit, and fell prostrate upon the ground. His Baptist friends gathered around him, overwhelmed with grief and fear, while the hearts of his Methodist friends were thrilled with holy delight. After he had lain upon the ground for some time, I pressed through the crowd, and was standing by his side as he opened his eyes. Seeing me, he said, ‘Brother Brown, what shall I do? I feel as though I wanted to shout, Glory!' I replied, 'If Joshua says shout, you may shout as loud as you please.' And he did shout, with all his heart and strength. But, at his first shout of ‘Glory!' his Baptist friends forsook him and fled."
"There was in attendance at one of these Camp Meetings, a Baptist gentleman, who, for many years, had delighted in criticising his Methodist neighbors on account of their noisy meetings, their shouting, and their sometimes falling, like men slain in battle, under the influence of the presence and power of God. Under a searching sermon, preached at 11 o'clock A. M., Sabbath, this brother was smitten by the Holy Spirit, and fell prostrate upon the ground. His Baptist friends gathered around him, overwhelmed with grief and fear, while the hearts of his Methodist friends were thrilled with holy delight. After he had lain upon the ground for some time, I pressed through the crowd, and was standing by his side as he opened his eyes. Seeing me, he said, ‘Brother Brown, what shall I do? I feel as though I wanted to shout, Glory!' I replied, 'If Joshua says shout, you may shout as loud as you please.' And he did shout, with all his heart and strength. But, at his first shout of ‘Glory!' his Baptist friends forsook him and fled."
Ascetic X
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When people get slain it is due to the direct instigation of another person, not a sovereign act of God. Invariably, charismatic people fall down when hands are laid on them. Sometimes a person is pushed. There are no examples in the Bible of people falling down when hands were laid on them.
There is no honoring of God when people fall down due to being slain in the spirit. It just looks ridiculous and not reverent.
There is no honoring of God when people fall down due to being slain in the spirit. It just looks ridiculous and not reverent.