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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Revmitchell, Feb 16, 2022.

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  1. SavedByGrace

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    indeed, if faith is a gift only for the elect, then how can God Justly condem those who don't have faith to be saved, as He did not give it to them in the first place? This theology makes God unjust!
     
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    This is from Calvin

    And he has employed the universal term whosoever, both to invite all indiscriminately to partake of life

    what do you think does not mean, the ENTIRE WORLD? How comes to ignore the other commens of Calvin I posted?
     
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    there is according to those who claim that Jesus only died for the elect, and that WORLD in John 3:16 is the elect!
     
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    Your comments that you posted from Calvin actually back me up on this.
     
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    God can have mercy on whoever he wants can he not?
     
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    I think that you are seriously DELUDED! :eek:
     
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    Again you are trying to merge two things. Just because we say Christ only died for the elect does not mean world means elect.
     
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    Romans 11:32 in context shows that He wants to have Mercy on the entire human race. which you reject because of your theology!
     
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    Trust me I'm not the deluded one here. After all, you said you can pull a sword with no force.
     
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    this is what you are saying with your twist of this verse!
     
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    You demonstrate you don't understand the concept of context. This is referring to all as in both Jew and Gentile.
     
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    Except I told you that is not what I am saying so you are wrong.
     
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    I HAVE!
     
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    and WHO do you think the entire world is made up of? JEWS and GENTILES!!! If you are not the one, then you are the other. You cannot accept this because you are more interested in your theology, than what the Bible says!
     
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    on this thread, almost EVERYTHING!
     
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    the ONLY time that anyone would use force to remove a sword from its sheath, is IF it were to get stuck in it. Unless you know this yourself, you will never understand!
     
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    Yes I have. And yes it does.

    You should watch this, you might learn something,

     
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    God actively gives mercy to those he wants to and hardens those he wants to. To deny that is to deny his Godship.
     
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    I don't think you know the difference between the word FORCE and FORCEFULLY. Pulling a sword most definitely requires FORCE but you would only have to do it FORCEFULLY if it were stuck.
     
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