Believers must endure in the faith to the end of life to be saved

[Yeshua1]

We will see who is talking falsehood.

Easy to clear up. Because we humans are held to the standard of Jesus Christ as our example to follow.

Jesus loves everyone or just elect?

Jesus our perfect example to follow, GOD ALMIGHTY does not only love the elect.

Jesus Christ, GOD ALMIGHTY, Our example to follow Loves All people.


If God hates something you love, then you are a sinning against GOD our allegiance is to God first.

Saying you ought to love something God hates is blasphemy against God.

Put your big boy pants on........ Do you only love the elect?

Are we saved by grace alone/faith alone, or not?

 

[Squire Robertsson]

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[Samuels]

But Brother if you can't even understand what I say, how you going to get scripture right?

I keep telling you ... no critical thinking was implemented into the education system some 50 years ago!
And to think it was just implemented into BC (Canada)'s system in 2016!

 

[utilyan]

'.....Having loved His own who were in the world, He loved them to the end [or 'to the uttermost']

Psalm 5:3. 'The LORD has set apart for Himself him who is godly.'
Psalm 6:4-5. 'For You are not a God who takes pleasure in wickedness, nor shall evil dwell with You. The boastful shall not stand in Your sight; You hate all workers of iniquity. You shall destroy those who speak falsehood; the LORD abhors the bloodthirsty and deceitful man.'
Proverbs 6:16. 'These six the LORD hates, yes, seven are an abomination to Him:
A proud look, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are swift in running to evil, a false witness that speaks lies, and one who sows discord among brethren.'

[pulls big boy pants on]
God knows who His elect are; I do not. I should have no hatred in my heart for anyone, because I might be hating someone whom God loves and will save in His good time. Did the early Christians hate Saul of Tarsus (prior to Acts 9)? God instructs me to love my wife, my neighbour and my enemy. If I try to obey His commands and seek His forgiveness when I fail, I will not go too far wrong.

Question was for Menno not you, Again shows how bad reading comprehension leads to mistakes.

Simply if you knew who the elect are, you would only love elect.

DO you love Judas Iscariot? The betrayer of Jesus Christ?


The LONG ways you guys go to sugar coat that hideous idea of God you have speaks for itself.

 

[Yeshua1]

Question was for Menno not you, Again shows how bad reading comprehension leads to mistakes.

Simply if you knew who the elect are, you would only love elect.

DO you love Judas Iscariot? The betrayer of Jesus Christ?


The LONG ways you guys go to sugar coat that hideous idea of God you have speaks for itself.

God loves His covenant people, israel, above all others, same way those of us now saved!

 

[utilyan]

God saved all of us not by his love, but by His Grace!

Grace is a THING of God. Love is GOD himself. No Love, No grace.


1 john 4

8The one who does not love does not know God, for God is love.


Those bible lines are a horror to all devil worshippers who need a Hitler God with a egotistic favoritism.




1 John 4 : 16 1/2
God is love, and the one who abides in love abides in God.


One who abides in Love, Abides in God.


AGAPE is a person.



The Goal of Christianity is GOD. God almighty is the highest priority.

1 Timothy 1

5But the goal of our instruction is love from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith.


If you don't see God or Jesus in the above 1 Timothy 1 verse that proves 1 john 4 one who doesn't love doesn't know God.




A selfish person can only understand the expression of a SELFISH GOD. A selfish person understands power, violence, force and might makes right for himself.

Mercy, kindness, compassion these things are always looked on as weak by evil. Evil looks for every excuse to do away with mercy. Evil enjoys the suffering of others.

 

[Yeshua1]

Grace is a THING of God. Love is GOD himself. No Love, No grace.


1 john 4

8The one who does not love does not know God, for God is love.


Those bible lines are a horror to all devil worshippers who need a Hitler God with a egotistic favoritism.




1 John 4 : 16 1/2
God is love, and the one who abides in love abides in God.


One who abides in Love, Abides in God.


AGAPE is a person.



The Goal of Christianity is GOD. God almighty is the highest priority.

1 Timothy 1

5But the goal of our instruction is love from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith.


If you don't see God or Jesus in the above 1 Timothy 1 verse that proves 1 john 4 one who doesn't love doesn't know God.




A selfish person can only understand the expression of a SELFISH GOD. A selfish person understands power, violence, force and might makes right for himself.

Mercy, kindness, compassion these things are always looked on as weak by evil. Evil looks for every excuse to do away with mercy. Evil enjoys the suffering of others.

Loving others saved no one though, as its the death of Jesus and His resurrection that did!

 

[MennoSota]

We will see who is talking falsehood.

Easy to clear up. Because we humans are held to the standard of Jesus Christ as our example to follow.

Jesus loves everyone or just elect?

Jesus our perfect example to follow, GOD ALMIGHTY does not only love the elect.

Jesus Christ, GOD ALMIGHTY, Our example to follow Loves All people.


If God hates something you love, then you are a sinning against GOD our allegiance is to God first.

Saying you ought to love something God hates is blasphemy against God.

Put your big boy pants on........ Do you only love the elect?

As it is written, "Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated."

Is that clear enough, utilyan?

 

[utilyan]

Loving others saved no one though, as its the death of Jesus and His resurrection that did!

It took God loving you to let Jesus die for you. John 3:16.

Also show me one person in heaven who doesn't love God.

 

[utilyan]

As it is written, "Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated."

Is that clear enough, utilyan?

Its a figure of speech, he favors helps out Jacob more.


Here is another example:

Luke 14

26“If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple.


Have you shot your father and mother? Have you killed your wife and children, told brothers and sisters how much you hate them?

Is that clear enough for you?

 

[MennoSota]

Its a figure of speech, he favors helps out Jacob more.


Here is another example:

Luke 14

26“If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple.


Have you shot your father and mother? Have you killed your wife and children, told brothers and sisters how much you hate them?

Is that clear enough for you?

Is that how you interpret this verse? If so...where can I find the bodies of your relatives? Also, what county are you living in so I can call the sheriff?

 

[Squire Robertsson]

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