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Believers stay righteous by practicing righteousness
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From our perspective, we are aware of our sins...
8 If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us.
From God's perspective, we are sinless...
5 You know that He appeared in order to take away sins; and in Him there is no sin. 6 No one who abides in Him sins; no one who sins has seen Him or knows Him.
Those that cannot grasp this basic truth about our life in Christ, misconstrues His gospel message.
8 If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us.
From God's perspective, we are sinless...
5 You know that He appeared in order to take away sins; and in Him there is no sin. 6 No one who abides in Him sins; no one who sins has seen Him or knows Him.
Those that cannot grasp this basic truth about our life in Christ, misconstrues His gospel message.
No.
Dave G
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Is that why Jesus Christ will tell those He casts into the Lake of Fire:
" ...I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." ( Matthew 7:23 )
" ...Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: " ( Matthew 25:41 )
Because He loves them?
To me, that brings up an interesting passage:
" If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha." ( 1 Corinthians 16:22 ).
noun
noun: anathema; plural noun: anathemas
1.
something or someone that one vehemently dislikes."racial hatred was anathema to her"
synonyms: abhorrent, hateful, odious, repugnant, repellent, offensive;
Let me get this straight...
Jesus Christ will disavow ever knowing someone that He loves, and telling them that they are cursed...and He still loves them?
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Jesus Christ will disavow ever knowing someone that He loves, and telling them that they are cursed...and He still loves them?
YES, because the only thing worse than hell for them would be having to spend eternity in His presence
Dave G
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Wait a sec, Hank.
You're telling me that God loves even the people He says He abhors, and casts them into Hell, still loving them?
I can't think of anything worse than eternal fire and loneliness.
One must be in the hands of an angry God for Him to do that to someone.
Righteousness is imputed, NOT imparted
It is God who declares us righteous due to faith in Christ
Again, we still sin so it is not absolute in lifestyle (we still sin)
And it is the righteousness of CHRIST that is imputed TO US. It is an alien righteousness, not one of our own
It is God who declares us righteous due to faith in Christ
Again, we still sin so it is not absolute in lifestyle (we still sin)
And it is the righteousness of CHRIST that is imputed TO US. It is an alien righteousness, not one of our own
I guess you've never heard (and/or believed) ...
"God loves the sinner, but hates the sin!"
What's the cave # again ... wherein thouest resides?
So, let me get this straight ... you reject the verses in the OP?
All I see everywhere is REJECTION of the precious word of God (Scripture),
which is to me is ... REJECTION of the precious Word of God (Jesus).
Wait a sec, Hank.
You're telling me that God loves even the people He says He abhors, and casts them into Hell, still loving them?
I can't think of anything worse than eternal fire and loneliness.
One must be in the hands of an angry God for Him to do that to someone.
God doesn't have to do a thing to them. All you got to do be yourself separated from God.
Jesus Christ teaches LOVE YOUR ENEMIES. If he doesn't follow his own rule he is a sinner and a hypocrite.
Dave you seem to have stone age idea that sinning is a PERK and the punishment and suffering for sinning is worst then the sin itself.
The sinner is a victim too which is why you get SAVED from it.
Like if you took a Saint and said You are going to sin else we dump you in hell. The saint will go to hell with a glad heart and just fine.
A Saint is not motivated by TERRORISM. You do plenty of things to protect yourself from God when it should be God protecting you from plenty of things.
In fact the saint is more concerned about the suffering you might be going through rather than alienation and seeking to protect himself from God.
Understand this. Hell can be getting absolutely everything YOU COULD EVER WANT.
All of us are born as dinners, already going to Hell, correct?
You destroy the word of God by adding to it the word "habitual" The verse ;
1Jn 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
We do not commit sin because we are born of God and are under Grace not the Law. We wear the righteousness of Christ and this covering covers our sin. No offense but you really need to sit down and study scripture more than you have and stop adding words to it to make it fit your doctrine.
MB
By adding "habitual" I am actually giving grace to the sinner.
Many argue that ONE sin (of any kind) separates us from being righteous.
IMO, habitual sinning is usually doing what one knows is forbidden.
E.G. Many pastors are admitting in polls that they are addicted to pornography.
IMO, habitual sinning is what is meant in all of the "sin list" NT passages.
If it meant "habitual" it would have said it, but it didn't say that did it?
It doesn't matter what your opinion is when you add to scripture you are condemning your own soul to hell.
Rev 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
Rev 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
Deu 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.
Pro 30:5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
Pro 30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
Your opinion isn't worth anything it isn't scripture. You are not God nor are you qualified to add to scripture. Your opinion is wrong because it does not line up with the rest of scripture. You live by the Law then try obeying the Law it self.
MB
Hey, MB ... how y'all doin' with these verses?
Warnings to the churches about gaining eternal death
Warnings to the churches about gaining eternal death
I'm doin' just find sir I'll be 75 on thursday and I was born again when I was just 14 I am kept in the hand of a living God and no one can snatch me out of His wonderful hand. That's called security.
MB
One can fight against sinning, having sin issues, and still be saved!