Believing Into Christ based on God crediting your faith as righteousness

[Van]

It is surely not off topic when somebody (in this case you) includes an unusually-worded quote from Scripture without saying which translation it is from, to ask that person which version it is. You say John "repeatedly uses "believers into Him" in his gospel." The only bible verse I can find with "into Him" is:

“but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head—Christ—” (Eph 4:15 NKJV)

None in John's gospel, and none at all saying "believers into Him." I don't understand why you resort to using words like "ignorant" and "off topic" when anybody politely asks you which bible version you were quoting. Simply replying, "It was the ....... version" when the first person asked the question would have saved a whole load of further enquiries.

As I feared, no response to my inquiry.

 

[Van]

I've been asked many/multiple times here on the BB what Bible version I'm quoting from and have never hesitated to tell.

Why so secretive Van? Which version are you using?

Again, addressing my behavior and derailing discussion of the thread topic.

 

[Van]

John 3:18
“The one who believes into Him is not judged; the one who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed into the name of the uniquely divine Son of God.

What aspects of Christ's attributes are in view here? As Lord and Savior!

If you review Romans 4:19-22 you will see that Abraham actually believed God would fulfill His promise (that he would be the father of many nations, Romans 4:18) which resulted in God crediting Abraham's faith as righteousness.

And, if you continue reading, Romans 4:23 and following, you see the action of God crediting faith as righteousness was not only for Abraham's benefit, but also for the future benefit of those who believe God raised Jesus from the dead, and believe Jesus was sacrificed for our wrongdoings, and believe His sacrifice provided justification into eternal life. Or in other words, the name of Jesus Christ, or as John put it, the name of the uniquely divine Son of God.
What might it take to have our faith, as flawed as it may be, to be credited as righteousness?

Do we need to understand and believe all the right things and none of the wrong things?

Do we need to be so committed to Christ we are willing to physically die for Him?

Did Peter understand Christs gospel and the Law of Liberty?

Was Peter's love of Christ "agapao" (sacrificial) or "phileo" (relational)?

God knows our heart, and knows the believer from the phony.

 

[Silverhair]

This is the fourth off topic effort to derail discussion of the thread topic, that God credits of faith of some as righteousness and transfers those so credited into Christ.

If you do not want the discussion derailed then just tell them what they keep asking for.

What version of the bible uses "into" rather than "in".

Your continued refusal just adds fuel to the fire @Van and it makes your position look weak and made up.

I know what the Greek says but have yet to find a bible version that translates it as you say the bible does.

The person believes "in" Jesus they cannot believe "into" Jesus as only God can place them in Jesus.

 

[Van]

If you do not want the discussion derailed then just tell them what they keep asking for.

What version of the bible uses "into" rather than "in".

Your continued refusal just adds fuel to the fire @Van and it makes your position look weak and made up.

I know what the Greek says but have yet to find a bible version that translates it as you say the bible does.

The person believes "in" Jesus they cannot believe "into" Jesus as only God can place them in Jesus.

Yet another post addressing my behavior and offering nothing concerning the topic.
link provided in the thread!!!!!

John 3:18
“The one who believes into Him is not judged; the one who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed into the name of the uniquely divine Son of God.

What aspects of Christ's attributes are in view here? As Lord and Savior!

If you review Romans 4:19-22 you will see that Abraham actually believed God would fulfill His promise (that he would be the father of many nations, Romans 4:18) which resulted in God crediting Abraham's faith as righteousness.

And, if you continue reading, Romans 4:23 and following, you see the action of God crediting faith as righteousness was not only for Abraham's benefit, but also for the future benefit of those who believe God raised Jesus from the dead, and believe Jesus was sacrificed for our wrongdoings, and believe His sacrifice provided justification into eternal life. Or in other words, the name of Jesus Christ, or as John put it, the name of the uniquely divine Son of God.
What might it take to have our faith, as flawed as it may be, to be credited as righteousness?

Do we need to understand and believe all the right things and none of the wrong things?

Do we need to be so committed to Christ we are willing to physically die for Him?

Did Peter understand Christs gospel and the Law of Liberty?

Was Peter's love of Christ "agapao" (sacrificial) or "phileo" (relational)?

God knows our heart, and knows the believer from the phony.

 

[Van]

Scripture for All Greek Interlinear of John 3:16 phrase "believeth in Him."

Pisteuwn
isteuwn
pisteuOn
G4100
vp Pres Act Nom Sg m
one-BELIEVING
one-believing

eis
eis
G1519
Prep
INTO

auton
auton
G846
pp Acc Sg m
Him

Pay no attention to those pretending to be so stupid they did not know John uses the phrase "believes into Him or Christ" repeatedly. Any actual study of the verses cited would validate the truth.

https://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/NTpdf/joh3.pdf

 

[Silverhair]

Yet another post addressing my behavior and offering nothing concerning the topic.
link provided in the thread!!!!!

John 3:18
“The one who believes into Him is not judged; the one who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed into the name of the uniquely divine Son of God.

What aspects of Christ's attributes are in view here? As Lord and Savior!

If you review Romans 4:19-22 you will see that Abraham actually believed God would fulfill His promise (that he would be the father of many nations, Romans 4:18) which resulted in God crediting Abraham's faith as righteousness.

And, if you continue reading, Romans 4:23 and following, you see the action of God crediting faith as righteousness was not only for Abraham's benefit, but also for the future benefit of those who believe God raised Jesus from the dead, and believe Jesus was sacrificed for our wrongdoings, and believe His sacrifice provided justification into eternal life. Or in other words, the name of Jesus Christ, or as John put it, the name of the uniquely divine Son of God.
What might it take to have our faith, as flawed as it may be, to be credited as righteousness?

Do we need to understand and believe all the right things and none of the wrong things?

Do we need to be so committed to Christ we are willing to physically die for Him?

Did Peter understand Christs gospel and the Law of Liberty?

Was Peter's love of Christ "agapao" (sacrificial) or "phileo" (relational)?

God knows our heart, and knows the believer from the phony.

Just another refusal by @Van to provide the bible version that supports his view.

If you cannot provide that bible version just say you cannot do so rather than making yourself look foolish by continuing to dance around the issue.

I have yet to find one bible that uses the text as you say it should be used