Jesus has always ruled, as God, but there is still not yet Him having His will being done on earth as now in heaven, as he is peritting sin and evil until the Second Coming!
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1689Dave
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No, because then you would know it was 7 years after your supposed tribulation. Nobody but God the Father knows when.
1689Dave
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Peter says your wrong. The resurrection placed him on David's Throne in heavenly Jerusalem where he presently reigns over all.
The Rapture event can be anytime .... so none knows when the Second Coming will be then either...
Reigns, but also is permitting right now sin and evils that will be shut down on His second coming!
1689Dave
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No........... It follows the resurrection of the Just on the last day.
Which does? Rapture or second coming?
1689Dave
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The second coming, followed by the resurrection of the Just, followed by the rapture, followed by the resurrection of the damned, followed by the judgement, followed by the destruction of the universe, followed by the creation of the New Heavens and Earth.
No, it didn't!
1689Dave
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“When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand, Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.” (Matthew 24:15–21)
Why did all Christians heed this and flee Jerusalem if they thought as you do? And it would not happen until thousands of years later?
“And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.” (Luke 21:20)
That was the Immediate application of the Parousia discussion, as there was alkso the event yet to come!
Jesus was answering for them what will be hapening now, and what is yet to come in the Future... AD 70 was not the event that affect the entire earth, that woufl cause the death of all alive...
1689Dave
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This already happened. They will be marrying and giving in marriage when Jesus returns.
When was there destruction that caused 1/4 of the earth to die out, that had massive changes on earth, that had the Plagues of god released upon Mnakind? Not of that wa sin AD 70!
Dave, they saw the nazi Roman army, not the abomination of desolation. You have no record of an abomination of desolation, do you?
1689Dave
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You are importing Revelation into this passage = adding to Revelation.
Did they see the man of Sin rise up in the temple, declare himself as God, and then jesus slew Him at the Second Coming?
Is not the second coming in the revelation?
1689Dave
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The Abomination of Desolation = Roman armies surrounding Jerusalem. “And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.” (Luke 21:20)
1689Dave
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Yes, but we should not add to John's words using already fulfilled prophecy as though it is yet to happen.
1689Dave
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They are not the same. You must turn Jesus into Antichrist and insert a huge gap between Daniel's 69th and 70th weeks to pull it off. And this is adding to Revelation big time.
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