Romans 3:23, Romans 5:12, 1 Cor. 15:22, just for starters...
Romans 3:23: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
All
HAVE SINNED
That's something you actually DO.
hence they
HAVE COME....not "ARE"
If we all are personally guilty of Adam's sin then two things:
1.) That we "have" sinned is irrelevant, because it was done in Adam
2.) We did not "come" short either....we were, always
Had been short since we are supposedly guilty of Adam's sin.
Why does Paul even bother to demonstrate our un-worthiness by saying we have come short because we have sinned?............It would be irrelevant.
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Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
as by one man sin entered into the world Adam was the first human being, if he sinned then sin literally ENTERED into the world through him by default. He was, in fact, the first man to have sinned willfully. That's not saying you were personally present in his loins committing it with him. You are assuming that.
....
death by sin
The consequences for sin is death. They are consequences which come from Adam, as the representative of humanity. Even
ANIMALS DIE (and because of Adam).
Rom 8:20
For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
Rom 8:21
Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
Rom 8:22
For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now
The entire planet is on it's way to an ultimate and permanent heat-death when our good Sun finally burns out. The Entire physical Universe is set to ultimately die and be destroyed. Whether God returns to do it or not.....it's a done deal, and because of sin.
for that all have sinned Paul wraps up vs. 5:12 by explaining the cause and ultimate result of death being
because:
all have sinned
That's not what Original Guilt teaches:
You would contend that death and sin is the result of Adam's sin and your/our presence and co-commission of the sin with him in his loins
(
pre-supposing an un-provable assumption of the pre-existence of souls I might add)
How does Romans 5:12 say all of that?
Answer: it doesn't....Tradition and centuries of assumption say that.
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1Cr 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
Now to understand vs. 22 it is rather critical to note that
THE ENTIRE CHAPTER
is entirely about physical resurrection from the dead and the hope of physical life Let's begin to demonstrate this from the context:
1Cr 15:3
For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
1Cr 15:4
And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
1Cr 15:12
Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?
1Cr 15:15
Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.
1Cr 15:16
For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:
1Cr 15:20
But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
That's the contex....now, let's see the immediate preceding verse from which Paul segues directly into 1 Cor. 15:22 namely, vs.
21
1Cr 15:21
For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
directly into:
1Cr 15:22
For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
This now presents us with a question:
Will
ALL PERSONS in fact be Resurected from the DEAD??
Why yes!
they will!:
Jhn 5:28
Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
Jhn 5:29
And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
See!!
Now, with a proper understanding of the simplicity of I Cor 15:22 you will no longer have to insist on those awkward Calvinist arguments where they explain (in impressive and fascinating detail) how the ALL is in fact all in the
first half of that sentence
but that it takes on a completely different definition and ALL is not in fact ALL in reference to the
second half of that sentence!!!
You can simply believe that ALL DIED in Adam (physically) <---they have
and ALL shall be MADE ALIVE in Christ (physically) <---- they will.
See! no more being forced to re-define the word "All" as meaning two separate things in one single independent clause! :godisgood:
So, now, the question remains:
Where, exactly are all those myriads of passages which state that all persons future were present in Adam and personally co-committing sin with him in the garden either by proxy or by somehow pre-existing as souls and being in his loins?
"Original Guilt" re-defines Sin itself as nothing more than Ribonucleic Acid, and it means nothing.
