Mark 15:2
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Biden: First Fake President
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Mark 15:2
Yes. Pilate did say it. But Jesus is the King. Pirate and Herod were speaking of an earthly king to an earthly kingdom. Jesus was speaking of another kingdom.
John 18:33–38 Then Pilate went back into the headquarters, summoned Jesus, and said to Him, “Are You the King of the Jews?” Jesus answered, “Are you asking this on your own, or have others told you about Me?” “I’m not a Jew, am I?” Pilate replied. “Your own nation and the chief priests handed You over to me. What have You done?” “My kingdom is not of this world,” said Jesus. “If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so that I wouldn’t be handed over to the Jews. As it is, My kingdom does not have its origin here.” “You are a king then?” Pilate asked.
“You say that I’m a king,” Jesus replied. “I was born for this, and I have come into the world for this: to testify to the truth. Everyone who is of the truth listens to My voice.” “What is truth?” said Pilate.
You don’t make any sense on this point to me myself.
What Jesus was telling Pilate is that He is not the king of the Jews that he (and Herod) anticipated because His kingdom is not of this world.
Wow! Jesus lied to Pilate????
You think Jesus lied to Pilate when He said His kingdom was not if this world??!!!
You should prosper under the new Biden government.
Secular government does not affect my prosperity. I have found that ones treasure is there one's heart will be also.
Reformed1689
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But we do elect the electors and quite a few of the electors were illegitimate. Therefore, so is Biden.
Reformed1689
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Let's not take that verse out of context. That verse does not say there is anything wrong with prosperity.
Kinda. It is up to each state, and only the state can hold the electors accountable for their vote. But in the end it falls to Congress to accept or reject the electors certificates.
I agree. What I mean is that I can live under either party, and neither has a significant impact on my life.
Reformed1689
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This is true, but who holds the states accountable?
That is the question. Should the federal government have the power to hold states accountable? Perhaps. But I believe that goes to the people - the citizens of the state. (I am for a very limited federal government). The citizens voted in the powers of their states (they make their own bed).
That said, I am in no way saying that the election was not stolen. I am saying that whoever is installed as President will be the legitimate and legal President. That's just how our nation is set up.
Reformed1689
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The problem is that, in this election, there were violations of the US Constitution, as well as state Constitutions. The Supreme Court has neglected their duty. And, though this will never happen, every Justice that filed in on the notion that Texas did not have standing in their lawsuit should have impeachment proceedings pushed on them for dereliction of duty.
The Court made political calculations and that is not what the Court is supposed to do. They are supposed to be independent. They are not supposed to take outcomes into account. They are supposed to take the law into account and nothing else. It is truly a sad time in American History.
I do not see how the Supreme Court neglected their duty. Texas has no standing to file against another state (having appointed conservative originalists as Justices guaranteed the Constitution would be upheld with the Texas lawsuit).
The only issue could be the role of state legislators in state elections - but here again it is a state issue (the Constitution leaves it to the State Legislators, which has occurred by their inaction).
Reformed1689
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Of course they have standing, as Alito and Thomas observed. They are directly impacted by the other states breaking their own laws.
I heard it explaned it this way:
Suppose in a class of 25 people - a test is given - and will be graded on a curve. But five people cheat - and end up getting an A - thus the 5 who should have recd an A - only got a B - and those who should have gotten a B - recd a C.
Well, the National election is the same way - by cheating in some States/commonwealths - it could have changed the outcome.
Reformed1689
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I wouldn't even focus on the cheating. I would focus on the circumvention of state laws by election boards and secretaries of state. We know that changed the outcome because it allowed for mass mail-in voting when laws do not allow for that. Only the legislatures can make those changes, even in a pandemic. Those legislatures did not make those changes so all of those votes are illegal. We know that the majority of mail-in ballots were for Biden so it absolutely changed the outcome of the election.
I disagree. I do not believe that the federal government or another state should be permitted to control a state (I'm a state's rights guy....we will always disagree on topics like this).