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Biden saying now he will defeat the NRA

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Conan

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Ah....I agree with Biden on that point. I thought you were talking about pistols, rifles in general, and shotguns.

So you obviously dont believe in the Second Amendment of the Bill of Rights. Gee thanks. What world do you live in? Why would you want to ban semi-automatic rifles? Why on earth would you ban 90% of all rifles sold today? Why would you ban magazines that hold more than 10 rounds? Then comes the ban of all semi automatic pistols that can hold more than 10 rounds. I realize you just don't know it. But you are on the wrong side. Now doubt you think we should have to only be allowed to own the kinds of outdated guns that you like, and not what the buying public likes.
 

JonC

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So you obviously dont believe in the Second Amendment of the Bill of Rights. Gee thanks. What world do you live in? Why would you want to ban semi-automatic rifles? Why on earth would you ban 90% of all rifles sold today? Why would you ban magazines that hold more than 10 rounds? Then comes the ban of all semi automatic pistols that can hold more than 10 rounds. I realize you just don't know it. But you are on the wrong side. Now doubt you think we should have to only be allowed to own the kinds of outdated guns that you like, and not what the buying public likes.
I do not believe it was wrong to ban machine guns from the general public either.

The 2A does not guarantee the right to buy the guns the public likes (I would like a M2 machine gun....that was my weapon in the Army...love the sound....this does not mean I have a right to buy one).
 

church mouse guy

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Should people be allowed to have revolvers? Some of them fire six shots and some guys carry two revolvers for a total of twelve shots. I wonder if the authors of the Bill of Rights knew how far gun technology would advance?
 

Conan

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I do not believe it was wrong to ban machine guns from the general public either.

The 2A does not guarantee the right to buy the guns the public likes (I would like a M2 machine gun....that was my weapon in the Army...love the sound....this does not mean I have a right to buy one).
Weird. You can buy an M2 under the right conditions. It will cost you a ton of money, but if money is no object you could legally find one for purchase. Strange that you are under some weird impression that you cannot own a machine gun. Where did you get that weird idea from? You just thought it up? There are available a very limited market of legally registered machine guns. No doubt the M2 there is only a tiny amount available to a tiny group of rich collectors, but under the right circumstances it is doable.
 

Conan

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Should people be allowed to have revolvers? Some of them fire six shots and some guys carry two revolvers for a total of twelve shots. I wonder if the authors of the Bill of Rights knew how far gun technology would advance?
We know exactly what they meant. "A well regulated(working) militia, being necessary .........


A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.
 

church mouse guy

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We know exactly what they meant. "A well regulated(working) militia, being necessary .........


A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.

Yeah, of course, but Biden says that he is freaked out by modern technology available to common people but then he sniffs little girls and takes bribes and tells lies.
 

Scott Downey

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Socialist democrats fear what they can not utterly control. It is one reason covid has them so freaked out. For guns they also must utterly control who has them and who cant. They want them and dont want the 'dangerous right wing militia groups' that they fear so much to own any guns. Have you noticed they dont care much about antifa or BLM terrorism, but they fear the mythical right wing red necks armed driving in pickup trucks as their enemy. Their enemies are any one trying to uphold constitutional rights which they dont agree with. They dont like the rights written as they are in clear text in the constitution, it is why we have them appointing judges who are not contextualists, who interpret it to be something completely at odds with the founders intents.
 

JonC

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Weird. You can buy an M2 under the right conditions. It will cost you a ton of money, but if money is no object you could legally find one for purchase. Strange that you are under some weird impression that you cannot own a machine gun. Where did you get that weird idea from? You just thought it up? There are available a very limited market of legally registered machine guns. No doubt the M2 there is only a tiny amount available to a tiny group of rich collectors, but under the right circumstances it is doable.
No, the general public cannot but a M2 (I already checked).

A2 does not prohibit the government from excluding types of weapons to the general public.
 

JonC

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My point here is that Republicans do the same thing that Democrats do. They take one's position (here Biden's) and push it until it is a lie. It may be that this is where they want to go, but it is an assumption. The solution is not to attack strawmen but to come up with a policy that prevents the strawman from becoming a real boy.
 

church mouse guy

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My point here is that Republicans do the same thing that Democrats do. They take one's position (here Biden's) and push it until it is a lie. It may be that this is where they want to go, but it is an assumption. The solution is not to attack strawmen but to come up with a policy that prevents the strawman from becoming a real boy.

I thought Biden called the AR15 an assault rifle that he wanted confiscated. Maybe you have correct information on that.
 
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