Biden tells another whopper

[JonC]

It wasnt a clarification. It was more incoherent babbling. Nothing unusual for him him. He said exactly what he meant to say

"It’s one thing to have the vaccine, which we didn’t have when we came into office...we got into office and found out the supply, there was no backlog..."

It was dishonest for the Left to make false statements about Trump because of how he worded things.

It is no less dishonest when the hypocrites on the Right to the same to Biden.

Politics has discredited far too many professing Christians over the past few years.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

"It’s one thing to have the vaccine, which we didn’t have when we came into office...we got into office and found out the supply, there was no backlog..."

Why are you presenting it in backward order?

 

[JonC]

Why are you presenting it in backward order?

I just copied it from the article (I copied and pasted it, didn't change the order).

If he said "we got into office and found out the supply, there was no backlog...it's one thing to have the vaccine, which we didn’t have when we came into office.....: it would be the same. The first would provide context to the latter.

But to answer your question, the only time I read the quote was in the article and I just used the "copy/ paste" function. That was the order it was in the article.

So I guess the question is why the Daily Wire changed the order.

 

[JonC]

The problem I have with the OP is the same problem I had when the DNC claimed that Trump was a racist, encouraged the Proud Boys, and told the mob to go to Congress and fight.

Dishonest is dishonesty. Sin is sin. A lie is a lie. Evil is evil. It does not matter if it is the Right or the Left who is doing it. It is wrong.

I do not like the DNC platform. I believe it is evil. But if the political Right is adopting the exact same methods, the same ways of twisting what another person says because he or she does not say it well, then they are no better.

 

[Revmitchell]

"It’s one thing to have the vaccine, which we didn’t have when we came into office...we got into office and found out the supply, there was no backlog..."

It was dishonest for the Left to make false statements about Trump because of how he worded things.

It is no less dishonest when the hypocrites on the Right to the same to Biden.

Politics has discredited far too many professing Christians over the past few years.

Your post havent proven your weird point. If there was no vaccine then its a given that therevwould be no ongoing supply. But saying there is no ongoing supply doesnt erase the statement that there was no vaccine.

Insisting that it becomes "cleared" up is weird. It doesnt.

 

[Revmitchell]

The problem I have with the OP is the same problem I had when the DNC claimed that Trump was a racist, encouraged the Proud Boys, and told the mob to go to Congress and fight.

Dishonest is dishonesty. Sin is sin. A lie is a lie. Evil is evil. It does not matter if it is the Right or the Left who is doing it. It is wrong.

I do not like the DNC platform. I believe it is evil. But if the political Right is adopting the exact same methods, the same ways of twisting what another person says because he or she does not say it well, then they are no better.

There is no twisting. His words are there and they are clear....."no vaccine"

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

I just copied it from the article (I copied and pasted it, didn't change the order).

OK, that explains at least part of the diff. The article quotes the important lie twice, once as a lead and then in context. The two statements were not made adjacently. The one you quoted first occurs chronologically in the fifth paragraph.

 

[JonC]

Your post havent proven your weird point. If there was no vaccine then its a given that therevwould be no ongoing supply. But saying there is no ongoing supply doesnt erase the statement that there was no vaccine.

Insisting that it becomes "cleared" up is weird. It doesnt.

He had already said that millions were going out a day and his administration increased that number.

This, IMHO, shows that Biden is trying to twist things to make it look as if he came in and took charge to make vaccines available, which is dishonest.

But when Biden says that there was no vaccine, no backlog, millions were going out a day, nothing left in the fridge, etc. then it is very dishonest to pretend this means that there was simply no vaccine. It is dishonest to the point it is a lie.

The question is how much of a stockpile was there at the federal level. If there was a stockpile (the DNC claimed there was, that Trump was holding them for a second dose and they should be going out) then President Biden is caught in a lie.

I understand that you cannot comprehend Biden's comments. To you they appear incoherent. But perhaps this is willful confusion on your part. If you truly cannot understand what Biden said, no matter how unprecise the words, then that is on you because you seem to have had very little problems understanding what President Trump said when he was less precise with his words.

 

[Revmitchell]

President Biden claimed at one point during a CNN town hall on Tuesday that his administration came into office with no coronavirus vaccines available.

Biden Claims ‘We Didn’t Have’ a COVID Vaccine When He Took Office

Yahoo news not exactly a right wing news source

 

[JonC]

There is no twisting. His words are there and they are clear....."no vaccine"

So you think that "no vaccine....millions of doses given out daily, which Biden claims to have increased when he became President.....no backlog" simply means "no vaccine".

Given that reasoning, Trump told the Proud Boy's to "stand by", and then he told them to "Go to Congress and fight like.....". Trump should have been found guilty of inciting a mob (per your reasoning).

The problem is your method is dishonest. The DNC was wrong to take only a part of Trump's words and leave off the rest. You are just as wrong to stop at "no vaccine".

There is absolutely no difference between the two (you and the DNC) when it comes to honestly presenting the words of others. You seem to know what Trump meant, but become a wordsmith when it comes to Biden.

 

[Revmitchell]

He had already said that millions were going out a day and his administration increased that number.

This, IMHO, shows that Biden is trying to twist things to make it look as if he came in and took charge to make vaccines available, which is dishonest.

But when Biden says that there was no vaccine, no backlog, millions were going out a day, nothing left in the fridge, etc. then it is very dishonest to pretend this means that there was simply no vaccine. It is dishonest to the point it is a lie.

The question is how much of a stockpile was there at the federal level. If there was a stockpile (the DNC claimed there was, that Trump was holding them for a second dose and they should be going out) then President Biden is caught in a lie.

I understand that you cannot comprehend Biden's comments. To you they appear incoherent. But perhaps this is willful confusion on your part. If you truly cannot understand what Biden said, no matter how unprecise the words, then that is on you because you seem to have had very little problems understanding what President Trump said when he was less precise with his words.

Nope, Biden tries to tell lies then catches himself later and tries to fix it. That has always been his thing. He had to drop out of the presidential race years ago because of his dishonesty.

Here he tried to tell a whopper and the shortly there after fix it. Nothing more nothing less

 

[JonC]

President Biden claimed at one point during a CNN town hall on Tuesday that his administration came into office with no coronavirus vaccines available.

Biden Claims ‘We Didn’t Have’ a COVID Vaccine When He Took Office

Yahoo news not exactly a right wing news source

I understand. He claims that there was no vaccine available when he took office, that millions were being distributed daily (a number he increased when he came into office, per his claim), but there was no backlog....no warehoused supply ready for distribution.

We can all read his words. We know what he meant (regardless of how he said it) just like we know President Trump was not saying that neo-nazis are "fine people".

 

[JonC]

Nope, Biden tries to tell lies then catches himself later and tries to fix it. That has always been his thing. He had to drop out of the presidential race years ago because of his dishonesty.

Here he tried to tell a whopper and the shortly there after fix it. Nothing more nothing less

Sure.

And President Trump told the mob to "go and fight", said the neo-nazi murders were "fine people", said that Mexicans are "rapists and murders", and told the Proud Boy's to "stand by" before giving the command to "fight like....".

I just get tired of dishonesty on both sides. Can one engage politics without denying Christ in their actions? (i.e., is there such a thing as an "honest politician")

 

[JonC]

Nope, Biden tries to tell lies then catches himself later and tries to fix it. That has always been his thing. He had to drop out of the presidential race years ago because of his dishonesty.

Here he tried to tell a whopper and the shortly there after fix it. Nothing more nothing less

Like Trump clarifying "stand by" and the "fine folks on both sides"?

By your standard President Trump should have been removed from office when he said that the neo nasi murders were "fine people", and then later clarified what he meant. \

He should have been impeached for telling the racists to "stand by and stand ready".

He should not have been censored for saying that Mexicans are "rapists and murders".

The Right is, apparently, no better than the Left. Both are dishonest.

 

[Revmitchell]

Like Trump clarifying "stand by" and the "fine folks on both sides"?

I agree that there are enough lies to go around.

Uh Trump was clear not the same thing. You are reaching.

 

[JonC]

OK, that explains at least part of the diff. The article quotes the important lie twice, once as a lead and then in context. The two statements were not made adjacently. The one you quoted first occurs chronologically in the fifth paragraph.

It does not matter. We know that Biden is no wordsmith...even if reading other people's words.

When President Trump clarified his statements we took him at his word. We used that to say that the man clarified what he meant, even when it was backtracking a little.

I am saying that Biden did the same. If we are honest people then we have to be honest in dealing with these people even if we do not like them.

It is not right to misrepresent what other people have said.

If you say "stand by and stand ready" to a racist group, and then months later explain that you have no clue who the Organization were, I would take you at your word. It was a comment to your base, not orders to the Organization, and when pressed you said that you were not familiar with the group.

People have the right to define their own words.

I just get tired of the dishonesty on all sides. We cannot defend Trump for context he provides for his words and then attack Biden with the same dishonesty the DNC was attacking Trump. It is just not honest.

 

[JonC]

Uh Trump was clear not the same thing. You are reaching.

Trump told the Proud Boy's to "stand by, stand ready". He did not clarify until months later that he did not know who they were.

Trump called Mexicans "rapists and murders". When faced with a neo-nasi act Trump said "there are fine people on both sides".

You cannot get around this. It is the same thing. It is exactly the same thing. Except this time you are the Democrat.

Biden clarified what he meant. We do not have the freedom to lie about other people, period. Not because we are conservative but because we are Christians (obviously there are liars on the Left and the Right).

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

It does not matter. We know that Biden is no wordsmith...even if reading other people's words.

When President Trump clarified his statements we took him at his word. We used that to say that the man clarified what he meant, even when it was backtracking a little. …

Yes, the order does matter for the argument here. His later words were obfuscation, nothing even close to clarification, unless you are now referring to something else he said after the townhall. But that’s not the real point here.

The point is that the Dems and their MSM are all about obfuscation and double standard. The point is that they don’t like it when they get a taste of their own medicine. If anything, Biden is far worse than Trump when it comes to telling it right, but the Dems and their MSM aren’t going to treat Biden like they did Trump. And Cooper easily could have helped the aged Biden clarify, but did nothing of the sort.

This is all about calling out the Dems and the Dem MSM for their ultra-hypocritical double standard.

 

[Revmitchell]

Trump told the Proud Boy's to "stand by, stand ready". He did not clarify until months later that he did not know who they were.

Trump called Mexicans "rapists and murders". When faced with a neo-nasi act Trump said "there are fine people on both sides".

You cannot get around this. It is the same thing. It is exactly the same thing. Except this time you are the Democrat.

Biden clarified what he meant. We do not have the freedom to lie about other people, period. Not because we are conservative but because we are Christians (obviously there are liars on the Left and the Right).

Not the same thing no matter how you try to twist it. No one has lied. I can explain it to you but I cant understand it for you.

Biden lied, realized it wasnt a good idea tried to find a way to move it in a different direction. He has a ling history of doing that. Again his dishonesty cost him the presidential race previously. This is not new for him.

 

[Wingman68]

Things said by Biden during one outing. They will not be able to cover for him. He has no filter. Some things he says here are blatantly racist, because Joe. His only redeeming quality is comic relief.
Sorry, the links did not copy, here is the source. btw, are we going to be editing things said by Biden on newscasts? Just curious.

‘Where The Hell Are We?’ — Biden said some crazy shite during townhall…