Biracial Marriage

[rbell]

Mr M., IMO your responses go over the line.

I think you owe Tim an apology for your responses.

 

[Mr.M]

Mr M., IMO your responses go over the line.

I think you owe Tim an apology for your responses.

And I think he owes God an apology for ADDING to his word. Secondly, if he is offended that is his business and for you to butt in is an evil prohibited in Scripture. Make you comments on the topic all you want but injecting yourself into the real or imagine offenses of one person to another that don't involved you is an insidious form of evil that is you understood its implications I doubt you would have made the comment.

 

[tinytim]

You really are this clueless aren't you? You really are eh? Astounding you have found your way onto the internet. You can't even go back a few posts ago to discover your own ADDING to God's Word and declaring something to be absolutely a sin where NO SUCH declaration exists in Scripture. You really are that clueless, unbelievable. Never mind the above passage has been taken out of context, obviously context means nothing to you, never mind the bizzare mess the rest of your comments are. Forget it. Next please!

P.S. For anyone else I have not stated my personal position on the matter, only the position that the Bible clearly does not explicitly declare racism to be a sin. Please be clear about my comments.

So using your reasoning and logic, if the Bible doesn't explicitly say something is a sin... it is not a sin?

I will agree that the Bible does not come out and say "Racism is a sin"
But proper interpretation of the Bible shows it is...
Racism is hate. OH... Wait... The Bible does not say "Thou shalt not hate" either.. so hate must be OK
And if you cannot deduce that hating someone because of the color of their skin is sin from the Bible... you need to find a clue...

And as Rbell would say... 'Some folk are just clueless. They don't have a clue. They can't get a clue...They couldn't get a clue if they smeared themselves with clue musk and did the clue mating dance in a field full of clues during clue mating season.'

I am starting a new thread in the general discussion area.. so we can get this thread back on target...
Sorry for the hi-jack.

 

[Joe]

If you want to be a racist pig, go ahead... But as a minister, I am commanded to call sin, SIN... and Racism is a sin!!!

How can you love God who you haven't seen if you don't love your brother whom you have seen?

BTW... Gluttony is a sin... being fat isn't...

Agreed!

Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails.. And now the greatest of these three remain: faith, hope, and love. But the greatest of these is love.
1 Corinthians 13: 4-8, 13
Jesus commands us to love our neighbor AS ourselves in James 2:8

"I give you a new commandment: 12 love one another. As I have loved you, so you also should love one another" James 13:34


I'll echo Tim's comments in that fat can be the sin of gluttony but that is not always the case. Skinny people can also be gluttons. We are to be temperate in all things- 1 Corinthians 9:25


Joe

 

[EdSutton]

Well, this reminded me that while I am the half-breed (literally) in the marriage, my husband is the one pegged by the gov. for the do-not-fly list by the brilliant powers that be -- most likely for his dark and swarthy looks WE have held up more lines at more airports than I can count.

FP, did you give her your stoniest stare?

I can attest to holding up airport lines, by hitting some unknown flag, myself. When my wife and I along with my late brother and his wife traveled both to and from Hawaii in 2002 and to and from Denver in 2003, in every instance, I was the one gone over with a fine tooth comb, for no good reason I can think of. This happened at every airport we went through. In fact, it has happened each and every time my wife and I have flown, since, as well, although we have not flown in over two years due to some health problems for me, and maybe now would not, as I now weigh only around 220, but I do not know.

My hair was actually lighter than my brother's, and we both were fairly fair skinned with little difference, there, as well. My wife had the darkest hair of all. My only outstanding physical feature was a weight of some 260-270#. I actually started taking off my belt, and shirt, as well so as not to flag any sensors, because I got tired of being "wanded" down, and having to wait an average of an additional ten minutes, when the sensor would go off, merely because of the belt buckle. Only then, do I not get "fragged", 'er I mean flagged, by an idiot machine, and somebody's made-up computer profile.

Ed

 

[Mr.M]

So using your reasoning and logic, if the Bible doesn't explicitly say something is a sin... it is not a sin?

I will agree that the Bible does not come out and say "Racism is a sin"
But proper interpretation of the Bible shows it is...

Right, it doesn't say that so quit saying it does....oh wait...a "proper interpretation" meaning YOURS shows it is....right...hello Jim Jones...next please!

Remember, my issue here is about what the BIBLE says about racism and it doesn't say it is a sin...not whether my conscience in liberty finds it acceptable to me. For critics of my thoughts please apply this information and do not read into anything I say that which I am NOT saying but you wish to assume. Thank you.

 

[EdSutton]

My problem with marrying someone of a different race is that everyone is of a different race.

Are you sure that is exactly what you meant to say?

Well, at least, as regards the above first sentence?

We are all freaks.

"I resemble that remark!"

Ed

 

[EdSutton]

No. No. No. No. No. Glad to answer your questions. My opinions are expressed in previous posts. If God commanded me to marry two from different races, I would, but I don't find that in scripture, either.


Fine. I'm sure from the way I am in the minority on this thread that most in the ministry will marry any couple.

Cutter, I am not here to "get on your case", but would like to know exactly what, in your mind, constitues one race versus another, as opposed to what constitutes two people of "the same race"?

I claim my own race to be "native American Redneck", FTR. How can I possibly know what may have occurred ten generations ago in my own ancestry? I could have any of a number of ethnic factors, of which I have no possible concept, at all.

I really think I have asked a fair, non-judgmental, question that should rate an answer.

FTR, I have so far, not taken part in the poll.

And I don't yet know if I shall, either.

Ed

 

[rbell]

And I think he owes God an apology for ADDING to his word. Secondly, if he is offended that is his business and for you to butt in is an evil prohibited in Scripture. Make you comments on the topic all you want but injecting yourself into the real or imagine offenses of one person to another that don't involved you is an insidious form of evil that is you understood its implications I doubt you would have made the comment.

well, that's a first.

I haven't been called "insidiously evil" in days.

Mr. M, a mild laxative might help. Good luck with your irritable bowel symptoms.

:wavey:

 

[Mr.M]

well, that's a first.

I haven't been called "insidiously evil" in days.

Mr. M, a mild laxative might help. Good luck with your irritable bowel symptoms.

:wavey:

Ah yes, the mind of a juvenile who is reduced to the non sequitur. Playing patty cakes to pretend he did nothing wrong. You keep playing in the mud little one. It's okay. That's why God give people like me big shoulders, to help you little ones.

 

[faithgirl46]

So using your reasoning and logic, if the Bible doesn't explicitly say something is a sin... it is not a sin?

I will agree that the Bible does not come out and say "Racism is a sin"
But proper interpretation of the Bible shows it is...
Racism is hate. OH... Wait... The Bible does not say "Thou shalt not hate" either.. so hate must be OK
And if you cannot deduce that hating someone because of the color of their skin is sin from the Bible... you need to find a clue...

And as Rbell would say... 'Some folk are just clueless. They don't have a clue. They can't get a clue...They couldn't get a clue if they smeared themselves with clue musk and did the clue mating dance in a field full of clues during clue mating season.'

I am starting a new thread in the general discussion area.. so we can get this thread back on target...
Sorry for the hi-jack.

Tim the Bible says that if you hate somebody it is the same as killing them or words to that effect.
Faithgirl

 

[tinytim]

OK, what I have seen so far the only reason for a minister not to marry a bi racial couple is possible problems down the road...

The only scriptural support is to not marry believer with unbeliever...

So we have to be fortune tellers to see if there will be problems...

 

[tinytim]

well, that's a first.

I haven't been called "insidiously evil" in days.

Is that evil laughter i hear in the background?!!!

ha, Ha, HA, HA, HA....

You have to admit, I love his choice of words!!!

 

[faithgirl46]

I saw something on ABC last August about twin girls whose mom and grandmother (I believe) raised then to be racists. They were on Inside Edition in NOvember 05 just around Thanksgiving. They were supposed to be in a magazine last year thhey were eliminated when they true colors were revealed. :applause: :thumbs: They deny that the Holocost happened .:BangHead: :tonofbricks: Their names are Lamb & Lynx Gaede.
Faithgirl

 

[faithgirl46]

OK, what I have seen so far the only reason for a minister not to marry a bi racial couple is possible problems down the road...

The only scriptural support is to not marry believer with unbeliever...

So we have to be fortune tellers to see if there will be problems...

Tim I think that some people are concerned about biracial kids being called ugly names.
Faithgirl

 

[EdSutton]

Tim I think that some people are concerned about biracial kids being called ugly names.

Personally, I would doubt the "ugly names" could be too much more ugly than some I've seen tossed out from time to time, and recently at that, on the Baptist Board, including on this thread. :tear:

Ed

 

[Filmproducer]

Well if there weren't racists, then she wouldn't have a problem...

Racism is a sin. Period.
And condemning biracial marriages based on the color of skin is racism...

So anyone that is not if favor of biracial marriages is a racist. Duh.

:BangHead:

THANK YOU TT!

Cutter your post REEKS with racism, and I'm not angry with you. Frankly I find you ignorant, and my son feels the same way about racism. I mean honestly, do you think I should scold him when he laughs at people who ask him idiotic questions like "what's it like to have a terrorist for a father"? Seriously? Sheesh! :BangHead: :laugh:

 

[Filmproducer]

Mr M., IMO your responses go over the line.

I think you owe Tim an apology for your responses.

Your not the only one! :wavey:

We are obviously no match for Mr. M. and his logical and analytical skills here on the BB. Maybe he should find a board with those "educated types", those that match HIS mere knowledge would be nice. In other words he thinks we're all a bunch of idiots that need his enlightenment. :laugh:

 

[faithgirl46]

Right, it doesn't say that so quit saying it does....oh wait...a "proper interpretation" meaning YOURS shows it is....right...hello Jim Jones...next please!

Remember, my issue here is about what the BIBLE says about racism and it doesn't say it is a sin...not whether my conscience in liberty finds it acceptable to me. For critics of my thoughts please apply this information and do not read into anything I say that which I am NOT saying but you wish to assume. Thank you.

Racisim is hate plain and simple. If you hate someody it is the same as klling them. That is Biblical
Faithgirl

 

[Mr.M]

Racisim is hate plain and simple. If you hate someody it is the same as klling them. That is Biblical
Faithgirl

I see you lack capacity for reading and retention seeing that this has been discussed and debated in detail and your comment reflects neither thoughtful consideration of any of the previous posts or if you did read them the complete inability to retain any of the information you read.