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Border Wall with Mexico

Benjamin

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Predictions and opinions:


Does Mexico think the wall will benefit them?

Will the wall benefit the United States?

How high do you expect the wall will be?

What materials do you think it will it built out of?

How far underground will/should the footing/solid barrier be?

When will actual construction begin?

Where will the construction begin?

What measures will/should accompany the wall to increase its effectiveness?

Will Mexico pay for the wall? How?

What is the biggest obstacle to overcome? How will/should it be dealt with?

Is Mexico going to pitch a fit and will it this escalate?

Will Mexico’s economy suffer?

Will Mexico eventually change their tune and receive more help from us under certain new conditions?
 

Benjamin

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Does Mexico think the wall will benefit them?

No. They understand the gravy train will shut down.

Will the wall benefit the United States?

Yes. It will bring into light just how much we actually have been paying for an open border and it is a lot!

How high do you expect the wall will be?

30 feet +. I’ll guess 35’.

What materials do you think it will/should be built out of?

Concrete reinforced with steel.

How far underground will/should the footing/solid barrier be?

15 feet.

When will actual construction begin?

About March 1st.

Where will the construction begin?

I wouldn’t be surprised to see it start in all 4 Border States to help create more jobs and perhaps competition.

What measures will/should accompany the wall to increase its effectiveness?

Surveillance cameras/equipment, guard shacks to monitor and response to breaches, more personnel and retention areas.

Will Mexico pay for the wall? How?

Yes. Through the moneys they are no longer taking out of our economy. – Which will actually be much more than the cost of the wall.

What is the biggest obstacle to overcome? How will/should it be dealt with?

The river. It will take more man-power at first, eventually by development of engineering that does not/should not restrict the flow of the water.

Is Mexico going to pitch a fit and will it this escalate on both sides?

Yes and yes.

Will Mexico’s economy suffer?

Greatly, and it will expose how much they have taken advantage of us.

Will Mexico eventually change their tune and receive more help from us under certain new conditions?

Yes.
 

th1bill

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Everything Benjamin said is what I see coming and will add only that the US will begin to, with this project, gain back the Face Value lost under tha Arab Worshipper/
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Predictions and opinions:


Does Mexico think the wall will benefit them?

Will the wall benefit the United States? NO

How high do you expect the wall will be? In material ...BTW how deep & how many funnels does Mexico have?

What materials do you think it will it built out of? Bull Scatt....you can get plenty of it in DC.

How far underground will/should the footing/solid barrier be? Does the depth influence the cost?

When will actual construction begin? When Trump gets the Polish back to begin the work, however Indian labor force far cheaper.

Where will the construction begin? LOL!

What measures will/should accompany the wall to increase its effectiveness? Have the Mexicans build it & pay for it.

Will Mexico pay for the wall? How?

What is the biggest obstacle to overcome? How will/should it be dealt with?

Is Mexico going to pitch a fit and will it this escalate?

Will Mexico’s economy suffer?

Will Mexico eventually change their tune and receive more help from us under certain new conditions?
 

Crabtownboy

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Throughout history walls have been an illusion of safety. They have never worked well. This is true of:

The Great Wall of China
Hadrian's Wall
Antonine's Wall
The Berlin Wall
The walls built by the Warsaw Pact Nations

Walls are expensive. They are a waste of money and resources. Usually they are built because of internal national politics.

Criminal cartels and desperate people will always find a way around, over and under walls.

The GOP screams about fiscal responsibility. How is spending up to 15 or 20 billion dollars fiscally responsible.

See my post under news on the lessons of history about walls.
 

Salty

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The Berlin wall was VERY effective.
but there were two major differences.
1) The Wall was built to keep you in East Berlin
2) If you attempted escape - you were shot
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Everything Benjamin said is what I see coming and will add only that the US will begin to, with this project, gain back the Face Value lost under tha Arab Worshipper/

With all due respect Bill, I see this wall business as delusion. Mexico is refusing to pay for it, so will US citizens be conned into picking up the bill ?!? (35 Billion Conservatively) ..... well, we will see but this is a much larger stretch than closing Gitmo (BO's failed initiative) ever was. Just my opinion.
 

Crabtownboy

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Radio Talk show host Michael Savage has an ideal he wants to send to Trump

Put a tax on all Western union money sent to Mexico - that would easily pay for the wall.


Seems an attractive idea, but it won't work. Too many ways to reroute money and avoid the tax. Also, Western Union is not the only way to send money to other countries.

Examples:

 

th1bill

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I understand that you are expressing contempt for former President Obama, but I have never heard of anyone worshiping Arabs.
Indicatingthat you misread the post and that I should have been more specific and should have said Islamic believer. It just goes to show that I have not been perffected... yet.
 

StefanM

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Indicatingthat you misread the post and that I should have been more specific and should have said Islamic believer. It just goes to show that I have not been perffected... yet.

You REALLY think Obama was a Muslim? He'd be an awful Muslim. He drinks alcohol and strongly supports LGBT rights.
 

th1bill

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With all due respect Bill, I see this wall business as delusion. Mexico is refusing to pay for it, so will US citizens be conned into picking up the bill ?!? (35 Billion Conservatively) ..... well, we will see but this is a much larger stretch than closing Gitmo (BO's failed initiative) ever was. Just my opinion.
Initially, the American Govenrment will have to Pony Up the cost but that will be reinbursed in Border Taxes for any and all cargo in transit to Canada. They've already covered this but the Mainstream Media, save the Fox News Chanel (FNC), will not be reporting that becase it does not fit their destroy Trump at any price campaign.

FNC, the number one, most watched News Chanel, covered this yesterday on every one of their News Shows.
 

th1bill

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You REALLY think Obama was a Muslim? He'd be an awful Muslim. He drinks alcohol and strongly supports LGBT rights.
It matt4ers not what I think and most of the Muslim believers I've worked with profess they were Islamic in belief as they enjoyed a beer. But the only thing that matters is what I wached Hussein Obama state on my TV one day. I found a short outtake video someone did of him declaring what I saw on the Tube. He said that if it ever came to it that the Christians and the Muslims fought, he will stand with the Muslims.

My conclusion: He is a Muslim.
 

StefanM

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It matt4ers not what I think and most of the Muslim believers I've worked with profess they were Islamic in belief as they enjoyed a beer. But the only thing that matters is what I wached Hussein Obama state on my TV one day. I found a short outtake video someone did of him declaring what I saw on the Tube. He said that if it ever came to it that the Christians and the Muslims fought, he will stand with the Muslims.

My conclusion: He is a Muslim.

That statement's out of context. And it was from his book.
 

Benjamin

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Throughout history walls have been an illusion of safety. They have never worked well. This is true of:
Tell that to Israel...

I say it will be very effective and if it wasn't going to be the liberals wouldn't be in an uproar with their propaganda.

Beside the argument based on subjectivity over the wall working "well" I will simply ask you to make your prediction here.

What percentage of illegals that have been freely crossing into our country will be stopped when the wall is completed and other measures are in place?

I'll say 95% or better.
 
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