Bush Spied on YOU, Reveals Whistleblower

[Bro. Curtis]

OK, well to save credibility, you guys better be critical of Obama when it finally dawns on you that he's not ending it. I'll be checking.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

This just shows the lack of integrity in the Bush administration. Couple this with the exaggerations used to invade Iraq and we see the Bush style of government.

Bi-partisan intelligence sent us to Iraq. Why do you leftists always leave that part out ?

Magnetic Poles, you are correct. The hypocrisy of some of our conservative posters concerning this issue as it relates to governmental intrusion is astounding!

Baloney. My candidate would have ended it, day one.

 

[Magnetic Poles]

National defense is specifically outlined in the constitution. Welfare and income stealing is not.

Don't spin off topic. If you want to discuss welfare, start a new thread. Where does the Constitution allow warrantless spying on American citizens?

 

[Bro. Curtis]

You gonna tell DF to stay on topic, as well ?

 

[Magnetic Poles]

You gonna tell DF to stay on topic, as well ?

If he goes off on a tangent, "Youbetcha!"

 

[Bro. Curtis]

:tongue3::tongue3:

 

[Revmitchell]

Don't spin off topic. If you want to discuss welfare, start a new thread. Where does the Constitution allow warrantless spying on American citizens?

Bub....I repsonded to your partially off topic post. You know the whole beam in the eye thing.

quote post #10

It may yet all come out, however if the telcos had not been given immunity it would be easier to do discovery on this. The government working in secret is not a hallmark of a democratic society. It is also interesting that the biggest defenders of this big brother style of government tend to be those who claim a desire for limited government.

 

[Magnetic Poles]

Bub....I repsonded to your partially off topic post. You know the whole beam in the eye thing.

Bub? :laugh: Wasn't that William Frawley's character on "My Three Sons"?

Now back to your regularly scheduled topic.

 

[targus]

A little knowledge goes a long way...

"During the 1990's under President Clinton, the National Security Agency monitored millions of private phone calls placed by U.S. citizens and citizens of other countries under a super secret program code-named Echelon."

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/12/18/221452.shtml

So Clinton starts it... (no big deal, right?)

Bush continues it... (Bush bad)

Obama continues it... (again, no big deal)

 

[Magnetic Poles]

A little knowledge goes a long way...

"During the 1990's under President Clinton, the National Security Agency monitored millions of private phone calls placed by U.S. citizens and citizens of other countries under a super secret program code-named Echelon."

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/12/18/221452.shtml

So Clinton starts it... (no big deal, right?)

Bush continues it... (Bush bad)

Obama continues it... (again, no big deal)

It is a big deal regardless of who authorizes, or when it is done. We have warrants for such things.

 

[Salty]

OK, well to save credibility, you guys better be critical of Obama when it finally dawns on you that he's not ending it. I'll be checking.

Obama is too busy to takcle wire taping, beacuse, his priority is ending abortion restrictions and bombing in the Mid East.!

As somone mentioned the computers were only seeking certian words and phrases.
IF it meant keeping me safe - so be it.

and dont give me that "If you are willing to give up your freedom for saftey - you deserve neither"

For begin with, things are much different today then in G. Washingtons day. He did not have to worry about an unexplacent plane dropping bombs on his troops, or crashing into a city, killing hundreds or thousands of people.
I am glad the patriot act was passed. Of course one of the best parts was the sunset provision.

 

[targus]

It is a big deal regardless of who authorizes, or when it is done. We have warrants for such things.

But your thread title says BUSH spied.

Not Clinton, Bush and Obama.


So when you started the thread were you just Bush bashing or just uninformed?

 

[Magnetic Poles]

But your thread title says BUSH spied.

Not Clinton, Bush and Obama.


So when you started the thread were you just Bush bashing or just uninformed?

And it is true. It didn't say others didn't now, did it?

 

[matt wade]

And it is true. It didn't say others didn't now, did it?

Ok..on page two of the thread you said Bush started it. Is that also true or will you be retracting that statement?

 

[Magnetic Poles]

Ok..on page two of the thread you said Bush started it. Is that also true or will you be retracting that statement?

Okay, let me clarify...first, we have no idea if Eschelon even exists. Secondly Bush has admitted lying about requiring warrants. So at the very least Bush expanded the program beyond Eschelon, which was only international traffic. Now it seems ALL traffic is monitored. Big surprise there.

 

[targus]

And it is true. It didn't say others didn't now, did it?

So it's just Bush bashing...

Unless saying, "It didn't say others didn't now, did it?" is just your attempt to avoid admitting that you didn't know that Clinton did it first. :laugh:

 

[Revmitchell]

Secondly Bush has admitted lying about requiring warrants.

Source please

 

[targus]

Okay, let me clarify...first, we have no idea if Eschelon even exists. Secondly Bush has admitted lying about requiring warrants. So at the very least Bush expanded the program beyond Eschelon, which was only international traffic. Now it seems ALL traffic is monitored. Big surprise there.

So you have no idea if the program even exists...

but you do know that Bush expanded it.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

How deep are you going to dig that hole?

 

[Magnetic Poles]

So you have no idea if the program even exists...

but you do know that Bush expanded it.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

How deep are you going to dig that hole?

No hole at all...just your spin. We know Bush has admitted to the wiretaps. If Eschelon exists, this is an obvious expansion. If not, he began it with the USA PATRIOT Act. Pretty simple really.

 

[Magnetic Poles]

Source please

http://www.infowars.com/articles/ps/bush_lies_stated_wiretap_court_orders.htm

Probably more like Bush got caught in a lie.