BUSH Wins - Christians everywhere rejoice

Ouch, my eyes are burning!!!

Statistically, most marriages are destroyed by adultery and financial irresponsibility. After that comes physical abuse, drug and alcohol addictions. Homosexuality is further down. As for gossip, it's probably a contributing factor in all marital, not to mention all other, issues. </font>[/QUOTE]Which addresses my point, an action C4K and Pa. Jim wouldn't deign to do. Thank you.

 

Is your purpose in this area just to find something to be critical about?

</font>[/QUOTE]That was never the issue - the point is that there are reasons for Christian to be less that joyful about another Bush administation. It has been that simple from the very start. </font>[/QUOTE]I think that most Christians understand that no one is absolutely perfect.

So it is my beleif that most TRUE Christians are rejoicing.

Keyword: TRUE

 

Well folks - claim a debate victory if you desire here. I am stepping out of here, especailly now that the truth of my faith has been questioned.

My point remains - if we could keep it on topic - which we clearly can't.

There are reasons for Christians to be less than joyful about another Bush term, just as their would be under President Kerry or and other president.

I would rejoice equally in the fact that God's will has been done.

 

PA Jim-

So when weighing being homosexual against these to situaions:

Is being homosexual the worst sin? </font>[/QUOTE]Who cares? Why would I wish to sit around ranking sins? The question was whether homosexuality was worse than "any other sin", and I have logically and biblically shown that it is worse than many sins.

All three in question here are grevious sins. And, our President is in favor of appointing practicioners of at least two of them to high level positions.

 

Honestly I've never been faced with that so I don't know what I would do.

I know that there are situations where doctors say that something is certain to happen. And sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't.

But how does someone get past the fact that they could have saved one life and they let two die?

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[ November 09, 2004, 01:22 PM: Message edited by: C4K ]

 

I have been saying for some time that Evangelical Christians have made a false idol of GW Bush. Now we have evidence.

 

BTW...just for the record, Bush also states that he is in favor of legalized abortion for rape and incest.

 

C4K-
I promise you, that remark about true Christianity was not pointed at you.

 

PA Jim-

So when weighing being homosexual against these to situaions:

Is being homosexual the worst sin? </font>[/QUOTE]Who cares? Why would I wish to sit around ranking sins? The question was whether homosexuality was worse than "any other sin", and I have logically and biblically shown that it is worse than many sins.

All three in question here are grevious sins. And, our President is in favor of appointing practicioners of at least two of them to high level positions. </font>[/QUOTE]Nice try, but here's what you said:

So in fact you have gone from saying "Yes, it's the worst sin," to saying, "What I meant to say..."

Thanks for sharing, Senator Kerry.

 

and... ?

 

I have been saying for some time that Evangelical Christians have made a false idol of GW Bush. Now we have evidence. </font>[/QUOTE]You have no such evidence.

 

I have been saying for some time that Evangelical Christians have made a false idol of GW Bush. Now we have evidence. </font>[/QUOTE]PA Jim-I don't appreciate you deliberately sabatogging my quote.

NOTICE, that I said that: I think that most Christains understsand that no one is absolutely perfect. Which for SOME reason you choose to leave out.

 

He won't address the point, Gup. OK, maybe he'll lower himself to address you. He certainly can't hold his nose long enough to address me.

 

here now,

I didn't deliberately sabatoge your quote. Sorry if you took it that way. It is customary to cut all but the point being addressed, although I normally indicate that I have done that with "...". I neglected to do so in this case, I'm sorry.

"Nobody's perfect" is what I left out, because it was not relevant to the point of my reply, which was that you seemed to be indicating that enthusiasm over the candidacy of GW Bush was an indication of a person's salvation. I hope you can see how far off base, not to mention highly judgemental, that is.

 

Now you've changed the question. Why did you do that?

The question for which you quote my answer was:

 

Would you remove your pastor for serial adultery with several women in the church? I'd bet that you would.

Would you remove him for a two traffic violations in the same week? I'd bet that you wouldn't.

Would you propose a jail sentence for armed robbery? I'd bet that you would.

Would you propose a jail sentence for littering? I'd bet that you wouldn't.

Why? Because some sins are worse than others.

And, you are correct that even the tiniest, most "invisible" sin damns us to an eternity in hell. Thanks be to God for the Lord Jesus Christ, without whom we would all surely go to hell.

 

Now you've changed the question. Why did you do that?

The question for which you quote my answer was:

</font>[/QUOTE]To which you answered an unequivocal "yes," then when challenged, you equivocated.

So... which is it, Jim?

 

Gup, you're not following what I'm trying to say.

My point about an adulterous pastor has nothing to do with Bush, Clinton, etc. I was pointing out that there are differing severities of sin. You would oust your pastor for serial adultery, but not for a traffic ticket. That's because some things are more serious than others.

Note that I AGREE WITH YOU that ANY sin separates man from God and requires hell as punishment. Hence, the Blood of Christ, which cleanseth us from all unrighteousness.

But, the fact that even the slightest sin sends a person to hell is an indication of the absolute holiness of God. It does not mean that all sins are "equal".