Bushites Split As Gitmo Abuses Continue

[OCC]

Originally posted by raunhawk:
One big difference KJ.
We fight for our and others freedom.
They fight for domination.

You bringing up hitler does not surprise me either.

I was trying to make a POINT! Your comment was uncalled for but hey...it's expected...you are just trying to stir up a fight. If you don't want a civil debate...don't bother writing! Now...are you implying that I am like Hitler???

As for why each side fights...that is irrelevant.

 

[OCC]

"You bringing up hitler does not surprise me either."

Excuse me...but uh...who are YOU to say that?

 

[raunhawk]

As for which side fights that is irrevelent? That is what the war on terror is all about. I am not trying to stir up a fight, I just happen to be passionate about my freedom and defending it. I also care about my young daughter who will face these bloodhounds in life if we don't exterminate them first.
I will tell you what, if you want to stir the pot, throw us in the same line with hitler. Whether you meant anything by it or not, you ought to be careful.
And to be fair, I will retract my hitler comment. Sorry if I offended you

 

[OCC]

I accept your apology and I pray for your daughter's safety.

I said "why each side fights is irrelevant"

 

[raunhawk]

And I was just saying it is very important why each side fights. If it were not for those reasons there would be no war.

 

[OCC]

I see your point. I am having a hard time trying to clarify what I meant. Sorry.

"Whether you meant anything by it or not, you ought to be careful." I will assume you meant this in Christian brotherly concern.

 

[LadyEagle]

I could be wrong, but it is my belief that Canada is helping us fight the war on terror by intelligence and covert methods - not directly involved in Iraq, but actively helping nonetheless, even though much is being done behind the scenes and not open to the public. Also, Canada helped us in Afghanistan and suffered losses.

 

[OCC]

LE, I didn't even know that concerning intelligence, etc. But I did know that we helped in Afghanistan and I was all for it. If I was in proper shape and still in the military I would have gladly went to Afghanistan.

 

[ASLANSPAL]

"Humiliation - properly defined - is an acceptable tool to bring our enemy - this type enemy - to their knees."


WWJD
What Would Jesus Do

now this is worth repeating

WWJD

WWJD

WWJD

I agree with the poster that Christians have no
part in evil like this...and you can spin it
and parse it or "it all depends what "is" is"

We can do better and not stoop to low levels
I think in the long run it hurts more than it
helps.

"The investigation also supports the idea that soldiers believed that placing hoods on detainees, forcing them to appear nude in front of women and sexually humiliating them were approved interrogation techniques for use on detainees."

Christian are hyper aware how Jesus was humiliated
and some would debate that was actually His greatest pain...the humiliation and rejection.

 

[Ed Edwards]

Amen, Brother ASLANSPAL -- Preach it!

Humiliation is un-American.
Those who practice it are un-American
and should be punished. At least i hope
we still punish un-American activities
in the government.

Those who practice torture and humiliation
in American facilities bring reproach upon
American. They need to be gotten rid of.
If you can't tell the good guys from the bad
guys, then there is no need to be going
after the bad guys.

Torture and humiliation are forms of terror.
We cannot practice torture and humiliation
in the fight against terror.

 

[church mouse guy]

I think that it is humiliating to be locked up with nothing to read but the Koran, but I know that that does not sit well with those who know what Jesus would do. I would not want that demon-produced book with me and I would long for one of those mythical toilets that one could flush the Koran down. Isn't it against WWJD not to have a toilet big enough to flush the Koran down?

 

[OCC]

Originally posted by church mouse guy:
I think that it is humiliating to be locked up with nothing to read but the Koran, but I know that that does not sit well with those who know what Jesus would do. I would not want that demon-produced book with me and I would long for one of those mythical toilets that one could flush the Koran down. Isn't it against WWJD not to have a toilet big enough to flush the Koran down?

Well...one does not have to read the Koran and one can memorize Scripture. Nobody can take the Word out of a man's heart.

 

[church mouse guy]

So you would give the devil's book to a prisoner without a second thought if you were the warden?

 

[OCC]

I never said that. My point was if someone else places it there...they don't have to read it. I don't recall saying anything about if I was the warden and I don't recall saying I would give it to them.

 

[church mouse guy]

I know, that is the reason that I asked the question--let me ask Ed that question, also. I think that to be locked up with a Koran is demonic, but then you two are independent thinkers, are you not?

 

[OCC]

Not a problem. I'm a very independent thinker. Causes me lots of grief. lol

 

[RockRambler]

I think the so-called abuses are highly overrated. If getting the correct information means humiliating someone to save an American life, then go for it. Its war, not recess.

BTW...all the cells at GB have Korans, correct? Who paid for those, the US Government? Does that violate the separation of church and state??????

 

[OCC]

Originally posted by RockRambler:
I think the so-called abuses are highly overrated. If getting the correct information means humiliating someone to save an American life, then go for it. Its war, not recess.

What would Jesus think though?

 

[church mouse guy]

Well, it seems that Ed and King think that Jesus, being perfect, would not have had any minor incidents at Cuba. Ed should have been in charge.

And Ed and King probably think that what FDR did to Japanese-Americans during World War II was okay because FDR was a Democrat and a liberal.

Actually, it was Sen. Durbin who first asked what would Jesus do.

But I am still waiting for an answer from Ed and King about would Jesus lock a murderer up with nothing to read but the Koran?

 

[carpro]

Originally posted by King James:

I don't know about you but from what I believe and what I was taught while I was in the military was that a real soldier does his job. He doesn't need people back home "supporting the cause".

The comment of one who obviously hasn't been to war.