cain's wife...

[Amy.G]

I really do not understand Roby's problem. Like Jesus said "it is written". God said it in His word. It's true.

My advice to Roby is go down to Lowe's, buy some lumber, build a bridge, and get over it!

 

[robycop3]

I have more than just a clue. I have Scripture telling me incest is an abomination before GOD. If it is, NOW, it has been from the gitgo.

“ For I am the LORD, I do not change; Therefore you are not consumed, O sons of Jacob."(Malachi 3:6, NKJV)

As I said, I am open to any explanation that DOES NOT INVOLVE INCEST. Anyone willing to give one, or are ya gonna sit on your duffs, wringing your hands, while proclaiming what a jabroney U think I am?

 

[Salty]

As I said, I am open to any explanation that DOES NOT INVOLVE INCEST.

So where do you think Cain got his wife - one who presumably had a sinful nature?

 

[freeatlast]

Matt 10:14

 

[Baptist4life]

So where do you think Cain got his wife - one who presumably had a sinful nature?

He believes God created OTHER people, even though Scripture says that Eve is the "mother of ALL living".

Genesis 3:20

New King James Version (NKJV)

20 And Adam called his wife’s name Eve, because she was the mother of all living.

 

[Amy.G]

As I said, I am open to any explanation that DOES NOT INVOLVE INCEST. Anyone willing to give one, or are ya gonna sit on your duffs, wringing your hands, while proclaiming what a jabroney U think I am?

You've been given scripture. It happened. God told Adam and Eve to be fruitful and multiply. How were they going to do that?

When are you going to answer my questions about these "other people"? Where does scripture speak of them? Why does God's word say Eve is the mother of ALL the living? Did the other people sin? Does Christ's atonement include them?
You are trying to make up an entirely different gospel than the one in the bible.


Galatians 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.


You are treading on dangerous territory.

 

[Don]

Amy - he's been given more scripture than you can shake a stick at, and he refuses to acknowledge it. I agree with FreeAtLast.

 

[robycop3]

Apparently, we're NOT gonna agree on this. I am ready to close the conversation. But lemme say it's PLAIN that GOD HATES INCEST!

Scripture mentions the nephilim. Now, since their wives were descendants of Eve, she was the 'mother of THEIR children also, correct? So, IF God had created other people who married Eve's descendants, Eve would still be the 'mother' of THEIR children as well.

Sometimes, some of you are as hard-headed as any Muslim I've ever tried to reason with, but MY head aint exactly soft, either. So, I reckon we'll just hafta agree to disagree, as I refust to believe GOD condoned sex between full brothers and sisters.

(Again, I brought this up after having a long argument with a coupla Moslems who were trying to justify incest within their particular branch of Islam.)

 

[glfredrick]

Sometimes, some of you are as hard-headed as any Muslim I've ever tried to reason with, but MY head aint exactly soft, either. So, I reckon we'll just hafta agree to disagree, as I refust to believe GOD condoned sex between full brothers and sisters.

(Again, I brought this up after having a long argument with a copula Moslems who were trying to justify incest within their particular branch of Islam.)

We are not being hard headed, but rather scriptural.

And, Muslims who NOT justify incest are wrong, for God declared incest a sin in the Law handed down to Moses. They have no justification for the practice in this age as did the persons ultra-early in the history of the earth when only select marriage partners were available and when the curse of sin had not yet degraded the genetic structure of homo Sapiens.

 

[Amy.G]

Scripture mentions the nephilim. Now, since their wives were descendants of Eve, she was the 'mother of THEIR children also, correct? So, IF God had created other people who married Eve's descendants, Eve would still be the 'mother' of THEIR children as well.

Yes and God destroyed the world (save 8) because of their offspring and their wickedness. So that argument won't float.
And who did Noah's grandchildren take as mates? Did God create even more people after the flood?

You are the one being hard headed and refusing the clear words of scripture and have yet to tell us anything about these "other people" you keep referring to. There is no gospel for them, therefore you are preaching another gospel.

 

[freeatlast]

Yes and God destroyed the world (save 8) because of their offspring and their wickedness. So that argument won't float.
And who did Noah's grandchildren take as mates? Did God create even more people after the flood?

You are the one being hard headed and refusing the clear words of scripture and have yet to tell us anything about these "other people" you keep referring to. There is no gospel for them, therefore you are preaching another gospel.

Excellent point about Noah and the offspring after the flood. :thumbs:

 

[tinytim]

I liked it where Amy said the argument won't float... flood.. float.. get it.. nice pun Amy

 

[robycop3]

Yes and God destroyed the world (save 8) because of their offspring and their wickedness. So that argument won't float.
And who did Noah's grandchildren take as mates? Did God create even more people after the flood?

You are the one being hard headed and refusing the clear words of scripture and have yet to tell us anything about these "other people" you keep referring to. There is no gospel for them, therefore you are preaching another gospel.

No, I'm NOT "preaching another gospel". However, saying God condoned incest is certainly another gospel. Where does Scripture say that?

The closest we have in Scripture is that Abe's wife Sarah was his half-sister. Nowhere is marriage between siblings with the same father and mother condoned.

And, as for nephilim...they were present AFTER the flood as well. Some atheists have interpreted this to mean that the flood didn't kill everyone but Noah and his family.

Ahd again, since Scripture is silent about where Cain got his wife, I cannot rule out entirely that perhaps she was a blood relative; conversely, YOU cannot rule out that GOD created other people. But we CERTAINLY know that GOD HATES INCEST.

 

[webdog]

No, I'm NOT "preaching another gospel". However, saying God condoned incest is certainly another gospel. Where does Scripture say that?

define incest biblically. Always deals with taking your father's wife...parents and grandparents. Since we ALL originated with Adam and Eve there is some level of "incest" (as you define it) with every child born.

The closest we have in Scripture is that Abe's wife Sarah was his half-sister. Nowhere is marriage between siblings with the same father and mother condoned.

Argument for silence. Never is the purchase of a Ford condoned in Scripture.

And, as for nephilim...they were present AFTER the flood as well. Some atheists have interpreted this to mean that the flood didn't kill everyone but Noah and his family.

There are gigantic people alive today. Watch the NBA and NFL?

Ahd again, since Scripture is silent about where Cain got his wife, I cannot rule out entirely that perhaps she was a blood relative; conversely, YOU cannot rule out that GOD created other people. But we CERTAINLY know that GOD HATES INCEST.

We have the creation account and lineage of those after Adam. We can certainly rule out another creation...another gospel AND another argument from silence.

 

[jbh28]

Never is the purchase of a Ford condoned in Scripture.

AMEN!!!!! Sorry, couldn't resist.

 

[freeatlast]

No, I'm NOT "preaching another gospel". However, saying God condoned incest is certainly another gospel. Where does Scripture say that?

The closest we have in Scripture is that Abe's wife Sarah was his half-sister. Nowhere is marriage between siblings with the same father and mother condoned.

And, as for nephilim...they were present AFTER the flood as well. Some atheists have interpreted this to mean that the flood didn't kill everyone but Noah and his family.

Ahd again, since Scripture is silent about where Cain got his wife, I cannot rule out entirely that perhaps she was a blood relative; conversely, YOU cannot rule out that GOD created other people. But we CERTAINLY know that GOD HATES INCEST.

So now you use atheists to promote your view? No body has denied that incest is a sin. And yes we can totally rule out that God created people after Adam. I said it before and I say it again. The only way to hold that there was another creation of people is to not understand the creation, the fall and redemption.
There cannot be another creation of people after adam.

 

[Bronconagurski]

GOD HATES INCEST! He hates it so much that those those who practice it often have children with many serious birth defects. We see this among the Pakistanis where cousin marriages are very common, as well as father-daughter marriages, if the daughter's mother is the father's slave.

Incest is a strong "taboo" among peoples who've never hearda God. And even most animals don't practice it.

Unlike many men, GOD DOES NOT CHANGE! It's plain that He hates incest INTENSELY! I don't believe He approved of incest any more than He ever approved of IDOL WORSHIP.

Now, Sarah was Abe's HALF-sister. God DID later prohibit such marriages. But I don't believe He EVER approved of relationships between direct biological relatives such as parent-child or full brother-sister. We see Nimrod wed his own mother Semiramis, and they became the founders of most of the pagan religions on earth, which came from their "mystery, babylon" religion. Their incest was just one of many evils they did.

Lot's daughters sinned greatly by getting their dad drunk so they could "sleep" with him.(And lot sinned, too, by getting drunk!) Their children, Moab and Ammon, founded peoples which became the enemies of Israel. They also became EXTINCT. Met any Moabites or Ammonites lately? You meet an Israeli every time U meet a Jew.

Scripture is silent on the answers to those questions, so we can only speculate. But it's much more-likely that He created other people to serve as spouses for A&E's children than it is that He allowed them to interbreed!

I am open to any other explanation that does NOT involve incest!

Here is a suggestion that doesn't involve incest. Cain's wife was flown in on the alien spacecraft that was also used, btw, to bring in the workers and supplies to build the pyramids. The same occurred after the flood. That's just as plausible as your theory.

 

[robycop3]

Now, where does GOD say He won't create anything/anyone else?

 

[beameup]

Genesis 6:2 says that the bene ha 'elohim took the bath 'adam as wives.
In other words, the Sons of God (Angels) took the Daughters of Adam
as wives and produced hybrid offspring called Nephilim. This corruption
of human DNA resulted in the Flood.

Now, it could have said the Daughters of Seth or something like that, but the Holy Spirit specifically uses the term "Daughters of Adam".
Couldn't be any clearer IMO. Nowhere in scripture is there any mention of any other humanoids being created.

 

[Baptist4life]

Genesis 6:2 says that the bene ha 'elohim took the bath 'adam as wives.
In other words, the Sons of God (Angels) took the Daughters of Adam
as wives and produced hybrid offspring called Nephilim. This corruption
of human DNA resulted in the Flood.

Now, it could have said the Daughters of Seth or something like that, but the Holy Spirit specifically uses the term "Daughters of Adam".
Couldn't be any clearer IMO. Nowhere in scripture is there any mention of any other humanoids being created.

The Bible says angels are asexual. They can't reproduce. Your theory won't work. Sorry.