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[JonC]

Just to clarify, your outlandish and lying accusation that the agenda of the unvaxxed is to kill you with 'their' covid, is not slander, because you don't mention a name?

(And China Joe did say it. Your obfuscating pedantry notwithstanding.)

Ah.....now you are resorting to slander.....you little slanderer you

And I never said anybody wanted to kill anybody with their covid. That is why you were unable to provide an actual quote of me. It was just in your mind.

I said Biden mocked vaccine skeptics and said "I have the freedom to kill you with my COVID."

That is exactly what he said. I copied and pasted it from the Town Hall transcript.

What Biden did not say, regardless of your false propaganda, is that the unvaccinated wanted to kill people.

 

[Aaron]

Ah.....now you are resorting to slander.....you little slanderer you

And I never said anybody wanted to kill anybody with their covid.

It sure looks like it.

But saying "'Freedom. I have the freedom to kill you with my COVID.'" is actually accurate. This is not slandering the unvaccinated. It is pretty much their agenda.

Perhaps you should clarify.

 

[JonC]

It sure looks like it.



Perhaps you should clarify.

Sure.

I was quoting Biden.

At the town hall Biden mockingly said "Freedom. I have the freedom to kill you with my COVID.'"

You seem to read that as "the unvaccinated want to kill people", but that is simply a false claim.

I trust you show a bit more care when dealing with Scripture and just don't bither here because while you share my dislike of Biden you are a "sheeple" to your political shepherd.

 

[Two Wings]

I honestly don't get why Christians are being such jerks

could it be this is simply your perception?

Is it inconceivable that Christians are being obedient to God after asking this very question, Am I or not to get the shot? ... and receiving from Him "in Whom do you trust?" or "pass through its midst and go on your way" (Luke 4:30 based)

If one wants to take the shot, go for it. I'm going to recommend against it unless you're quite elderly and have significant pulmonary type issues. Let's face it ... if you're at that point, a common adenovirus is fatal. I pray Godspeed to ya for His will, His peace which passes understanding, and that you are in no pain one way or the other.

 

[Two Wings]

But that is a misrepresentation of what was actually said.

wow Jon.

Biden answered a direct question (prepared obviously) from ol Coop.

Then he speaks as if he's a non-cv vaxed person "all about freedom" and declares the very idea you're denying. He's not the only one either. Fauxchi has made similar statements ...

 

[JonC]

wow Jon.

Biden answered a direct question (prepared obviously) from ol Coop.

Then he speaks as if he's a non-cv vaxed person "all about freedom" and declares the very idea you're denying. He's not the only one either. Fauxchi has made similar statements ...

It is a fair statement. When one person's freedom impacts the freedom of another where does liberty sway?

For example, should adults be free to use drugs? In a way I think so. But I can also see that this can infringe on society as a whole.

On the Baptist Board it has been argued that a man who requires a vaccine for employment (exercising his freedom) infringes on another's freedom to be employed without taking a vaccine. The false narrative that this is about freedom has been championed by the anti-covid-vax movement.

But the fact remains that Biden did not say the unvacvinated want to kill people. That is misinformation.

 

[Two Wings]

But the fact remains that Biden did not say the unvacvinated want to kill people. That is misinformation.

I don't know the narrative terminology ... but in the answer posed to him, he pretended to be speaking as a non cv vaxed "I have the freedom to kill you with my COVID" even did a voice alter ... that's the quote, and that's the context.

You're declaring this to be misinformation only belies your bias, brother.

 

[Two Wings]

wait ... are you saying Biden is actually a non-cv vaxed person? So he wasn't presuming, but simply stating as one who ISN'T cv vaxed?

... yet presuming to mandate it for millions?

only slightly tongue in cheek ...

 

[Aaron]

Sure.

I was quoting Biden.

At the town hall Biden mockingly said "Freedom. I have the freedom to kill you with my COVID.'"

You seem to read that as "the unvaccinated want to kill people",

Um, no. I'm reading your words to that effect.

But saying "'Freedom. I have the freedom to kill you with my COVID.'" is actually accurate. This is not slandering the unvaccinated. It is pretty much their agenda.

You can't wiggle out of it. Maybe you have the moderator pool hornswoggled, but there's no question to the conservatives reading it of the meaning of that paragraph.

 

[AustinC]

could it be this is simply your perception?

Is it inconceivable that Christians are being obedient to God after asking this very question, Am I or not to get the shot? ... and receiving from Him "in Whom do you trust?" or "pass through its midst and go on your way" (Luke 4:30 based)

If one wants to take the shot, go for it. I'm going to recommend against it unless you're quite elderly and have significant pulmonary type issues. Let's face it ... if you're at that point, a common adenovirus is fatal. I pray Godspeed to ya for His will, His peace which passes understanding, and that you are in no pain one way or the other.

In whom do you trust should be answered...in God we trust. Thus, when God explicitly tells us to obey those in authority because God has ordained them, we should trust God's word. We obey. We confidently roll up our sleeve and receive the vaccine, fully trusting God and knowing that we are aliens and exiles here on earth. To die is gain.
No fear. God is moving the leaders to mandate this vaccine. Go get the vaccine and stop whining against God's ordained leader.

 

[JonC]

I don't know the narrative terminology ... but in the answer posed to him, he pretended to be speaking as a non cv vaxed "I have the freedom to kill you with my COVID" even did a voice alter ... that's the quote, and that's the context.

You're declaring this to be misinformation only belies your bias, brother.

I am not saying that is misinformation. I provided that quote and affirmed that is what Biden said mocking those who rejected vaccinations.

There is a legitimate debate that can be had regarding freedoms and how they may impact freedoms of others (and not isolated to the covid issue).

But you are playing a bit of a shell game here.

What I said was misinformation is the claim that Biden said "the unvaccinated want to kill people".

I say Biden never said "the unvaccinated want to kill people" and you say that belies my bias because Biden said "I have the freedom to kill you with my COVID"????

I suggest the bias may be yours, brother. The two statements are not only different but they convey different meanings. The first speaks of a desire to kill people. The latter, mockingly, speaks of the right to exercise a freedom regardless of the consequence towards others.

I believe both comments would have been inappropriate, particularly as the latter was mocking citizens Biden has sworn to represent. But the fact remains the two statements ate different and the latter actually spoken.

 

[JonC]

Um, no. I'm reading your words to that effect.



You can't wiggle out of it. Maybe you have the moderator pool hornswoggled, but there's no question to the conservatives reading it of the meaning of that paragraph.

I have no idea what you are talking about. You seem to have resorted to some sort of mumbo-jumbo in trying to create smoke to cover your error.

If I say that you are killing people with your freedom that is not the same as saying you want to kill people.

I am a conservative. I am actually more conservative than you regarding rights and freedoms based on previous conversations (I am a Constitutionalist, so I view your subjectivity in its application as liberalism or "progressive", albeit from an otherwise conservative position).

The issue here is not what was actually said (we all know Biden did not say "the unvaccinated want to kill people"), but that you take the liberty to say what he "really means".

I do not care what you think Biden, Trump, or God "really means". I want to deal with what was really said or really written.

 

[Aaron]

I have no idea what you are talking about.

Yes you do. This question is to others, except the moderators who are out of touch and living in the past:

How do you read what is written here?

But saying "'Freedom. I have the freedom to kill you with my COVID.'" is actually accurate. This is not slandering the unvaccinated. It is pretty much their agenda.

 

[just-want-peace]

In whom do you trust should be answered...in God we trust. Thus, when God explicitly tells us to obey those in authority because God has ordained them, we should trust God's word. We obey. We confidently roll up our sleeve and receive the vaccine, fully trusting God and knowing that we are aliens and exiles here on earth. To die is gain.
No fear. God is moving the leaders to mandate this vaccine. Go get the vaccine and stop whining against God's ordained leader.

So, if the trib starts tomorrow, you are going to willingly (even enthusiastically maybe?) accept the "mark" since it's the gov't that is telling you to????

 

[nonaeroterraqueous]

No fear. God is moving the leaders to mandate this vaccine. Go get the vaccine and stop whining against God's ordained leader.

Your comments are getting so absurd that I'm beginning to wonder if you're just being sarcastic.

 

[JonC]

Yes you do. This question is to others, except the moderators who are out of touch and living in the past:

How do you read what is written here?

I read it as Biden mockedly saying "'Freedom. I have the freedom to kill you with my COVID" is not slander and is not the same as your claim that Biden said "the unvaccinated want to kill people".

Saying Biden was accurate this time is also not slander.

Do you even know what constitutes slander?

 

[canadyjd]

I read it as Biden mockedly saying "'Freedom. I have the freedom to kill you with my COVID" is not slander and is not the same as your claim that Biden said "the unvaccinated want to kill people".

Saying Biden was accurate this time is also not slander.

Do you even know what constitutes slander?

The intellectually dishonesty you exhibit in this argument is stunning.

On the one hand, you say you agree with B:den that the unvaxed want to kill people with their covid. In the next breath you claim B:den never said it.

There can be no discussion with you on this issue.

peace to you

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

In whom do you trust should be answered...in God we trust. Thus, when God explicitly tells us to obey those in authority because God has ordained them, we should trust God's word. We obey. We confidently roll up our sleeve and receive the vaccine, fully trusting God and knowing that we are aliens and exiles here on earth. To die is gain.
No fear. God is moving the leaders to mandate this vaccine. Go get the vaccine and stop whining against God's ordained leader.

The attitude and approach of that post smacks of hermeneutical hypocrisy sounding like judgmental ignorance on steroids.

The USA is a constitutional republic with laws in place to protect rights and restrain tyrants.

It has both elected and appointed leaders who can be legally challenged for exceeding their authority, even to the point of being removed from office, prosecuted and incarcerated.

One may not like the fact that God has ordained such a republic with such a constitution that reigns above both elected and appointed leaders, but that doesn’t change the fact.

 

[JonC]

The intellectually dishonesty you exhibit in this argument is stunning.

On the one hand, you say you agree with B:den that the unvaxed want to kill people with their covid. In the next breath you claim B:den never said it.

There can be no discussion with you on this issue.

peace to you

There can be none but for a different reason.

Let's do an honesty test.

Quote Biden saying that the unvaxed want to kill people with their covid.

Quote me agreeing with anybody that the unvaxed want to kill people with their covid.

 

[canadyjd]

There can be none but for a different reason.

Let's do an honesty test.

Quote Biden saying that the unvaxed want to kill people with their covid.

Quote me agreeing with anybody that the unvaxed want to kill people with their covid.

OK
Post# 27

….But saying "'Freedom. I have the freedom to kill you with my COVID.'" is actually accurate. This is not slandering the unvaccinated. It is pretty much their agenda.

Here you quote the very words spoken by B:den at the CNN town hall. You say they accurately reflect the “agenda” of the unvaxed..

With this post (#27) you acknowledge B:den is speaking of the unvaxed when he says “I have the freedom to kill you with my covid”. You also join in his slander that the unvaxed want to kill people.

HONESTY TEST TAKEN AND PASSED

Your intellectually dishonesty has been exposed for all to see.

You should apologize in shame to all you have slandered on this board and commit yourself to never post on this subject again.

peace to you