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[JonC]

OK
Post# 27

Here you quote the very words spoken by B:den at the CNN town hall. You say they accurately reflect the “agenda” of the unvaxed..

With this post (#27) you acknowledge B:den is speaking of the unvaxed when he says “I have the freedom to kill you with my covid”. You also join in his slander that the unvaxed want to kill people.

HONESTY TEST TAKEN AND PASSED

Your intellectually dishonesty has been exposed for all to see.

You should apologize in shame to all you have slandered on this board and commit yourself to never post on this subject again.

peace to you

No. You failed.

Biden was mocking people (which is unPresidental). But what he said was not "the unvaccinated want to kill people with their covid".

I hope you do not read Scripture with the same "honesty" you hear other people or judge me.


I do not believe the unvaccinated have a desire to kill people. I don't believe Andrew Cuomo desired to kill anyone.

But sometimes actions while pursuing an agenda has that effect.

An honest examination would have revealed your shell game. You keep switching what you actually posted and accused me of ("The unvaccinated want to kill people with their covid") with what was actually said ("Freedom. I have the freedom to kill you with my covid”).

It is hard to believe you are switching statements accidentally.

You failed the test at least twice.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

BIDEN MOCKS UNVACCINATED: ‘I Have the Freedom to Kill You With COVID? Come On!’ | Sean Hannity...

Oh, the brazen hypocrisy of that outrageous rhetoric.

Biden mocks freedom, including freedom of speech, yet one would never hear even a peep from the Dems if all lies and deception were suppressed. They’ve done nothing about COVID-19 except make it a political issue.

Biden is flooding the country with illegals, even deliberately distributing them, with no concern for their spreading COVID-19 and other diseases.

If one were the suspicious type, or simply not prone to gullibility, he would conclude that Biden is purposely trying to spread disease, especially COVID-19, for political purposes.

 

[canadyjd]

No. You failed.

I do not believe the unvaccinated have a desire to kill people…..

You failed the test at least twice.

Once again, from your post #27:

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But saying "'Freedom. I have the freedom to kill you with my COVID.'" is actually accurate. This is not slandering the unvaccinated. It is pretty much their agenda.

You accurately quote the exact words of B:den from the CNN town hall which I referenced.

You then say the statement is accurate. What statement? “I have the freedom to kill you with my covid.”

You then say it isn’t slander against they unvaxed. What is not slander? The statement “I have the freedom to kill you with my covid.”

By making that statement, you are acknowledging that B:den is referring to the unvaxed when he mocked them saying, “I have the freedom to kill you with my covid”.

You then explain why you don’t believe B:dens statement “I have the freedom to kill you with my covid”, isn’t slandering the unvaxed by saying, “It is pretty much their agenda”.

So, in post #27, you acknowledge B:den is saying the unvaxed want to kill people with their covid, you agree with the statement and that the statement “I have the freedom to kill you with my covid” is pretty much the agenda of the unvaxed. That is your own words.

Your repeated denials of your own statements in Post #27 is shameful. You said it, you own it.

You should apologize to everyone on this board that you have slandered. Additionally, you should apologize to everyone reading this thread for your repeated misinformation concerning what you stated.

peace to you

 

[JonC]

Once again, from your post #27:

You accurately quote the exact words of B:den from the CNN town hall which I referenced.

You then say the statement is accurate. What statement? “I have the freedom to kill you with my covid.”

You then say it isn’t slander against they unvaxed. What is not slander? The statement “I have the freedom to kill you with my covid.”

By making that statement, you are acknowledging that B:den is referring to the unvaxed when he mocked them saying, “I have the freedom to kill you with my covid”.

You then explain why you don’t believe B:dens statement “I have the freedom to kill you with my covid”, isn’t slandering the unvaxed by saying, “It is pretty much their agenda”.

So, in post #27, you acknowledge B:den is saying the unvaxed want to kill people with their covid, you agree with the statement and that the statement “I have the freedom to kill you with my covid” is pretty much the agenda of the unvaxed. That is your own words.

Your repeated denials of your own statements in Post #27 is shameful. You said it, you own it.

You should apologize to everyone on this board that you have slandered. Additionally, you should apologize to everyone reading this thread for your repeated misinformation concerning what you stated.

peace to you

The only statement I acknowledged Biden as saying is “I have the freedom to kill you with my covid.”

I have never seen tge statement "The unvaccinated want to kill people with their covid" except in your claim.

I have never acknowledged that Biden said "the unvaccinated want to kill people". I believe you just made that up to spread misinformation.

Why do you keep switching statements? You claim I agree that the unvaccinated want to kill people but keep "proving" it by providing an entirely different statement about freedom.

 

[Aaron]

I read it as Biden mockedly saying "'Freedom. I have the freedom to kill you with my COVID" is not slander and is not the same as your claim that Biden said "the unvaccinated want to kill people".

Saying Biden was accurate this time is also not slander.

Do you even know what constitutes slander?

I'm not talking about what Biden said at all. I'm talking about what you said.

Anyway, there it is. It's so plain a child can see it.

 

[Aaron]

Once again, from your post #27:

You accurately quote the exact words of B:den from the CNN town hall which I referenced.

You then say the statement is accurate. What statement? “I have the freedom to kill you with my covid.”

You then say it isn’t slander against they unvaxed. What is not slander? The statement “I have the freedom to kill you with my covid.”

By making that statement, you are acknowledging that B:den is referring to the unvaxed when he mocked them saying, “I have the freedom to kill you with my covid”.

You then explain why you don’t believe B:dens statement “I have the freedom to kill you with my covid”, isn’t slandering the unvaxed by saying, “It is pretty much their agenda”.

So, in post #27, you acknowledge B:den is saying the unvaxed want to kill people with their covid, you agree with the statement and that the statement “I have the freedom to kill you with my covid” is pretty much the agenda of the unvaxed. That is your own words.

Your repeated denials of your own statements in Post #27 is shameful. You said it, you own it.

You should apologize to everyone on this board that you have slandered. Additionally, you should apologize to everyone reading this thread for your repeated misinformation concerning what you stated.

peace to you

Yeah. It's stunning the lies he gets away with here.

 

[JonC]

I'm not talking about what Biden said at all. I'm talking about what you said.

Anyway, there it is. It's so plain a child can see it.

I said that I believe Biden got one right this time.

Again, do you understand the word "slander"?

It does not mean what you seem to think it means.

 

[Two Wings]

I am not saying that is misinformation. I provided that quote and affirmed that is what Biden said mocking those who rejected vaccinations.

There is a legitimate debate that can be had regarding freedoms and how they may impact freedoms of others (and not isolated to the covid issue).

But you are playing a bit of a shell game here.

What I said was misinformation is the claim that Biden said "the unvaccinated want to kill people".

I say Biden never said "the unvaccinated want to kill people" and you say that belies my bias because Biden said "I have the freedom to kill you with my COVID"????

I suggest the bias may be yours, brother. The two statements are not only different but they convey different meanings. The first speaks of a desire to kill people. The latter, mockingly, speaks of the right to exercise a freedom regardless of the consequence towards others.

I believe both comments would have been inappropriate, particularly as the latter was mocking citizens Biden has sworn to represent. But the fact remains the two statements ate different and the latter actually spoken.

Must be watchihg differrbt links. It was clear what Biden said. The context in which it was said. And is consistent w the indignation conveyed w the non cv vaxed when he announced his insane cv vax mandate.

I have biases. But I can see what Biden said and clearly intended to convey.

your interpretation isnt it.

 

[JonC]

Must be watchihg differrbt links. It was clear what Biden said. The context in which it was said. And is consistent w the indignation conveyed w the non cv vaxed when he announced his insane cv vax mandate.

I have biases. But I can see what Biden said and clearly intended to convey.

your interpretation isnt it.

We must be. I do not like Biden, but I have no biases. I'm just looking at what I can find was actually said

All I can find is this CNN town hall. In it Biden mocks those who are anti-vaccination. He acts like a partisan senator rather than a president by mocking those he represents as president. And he speaks of how some view the issue as one of freedom ignoring the consequences - they have the freedom to reject vaccinations which result in the death of people.

But I cannot find a statement that says or even implies that the unvaccinated desire to kill people.

I believe the statement "The unvaccinated want to kill people with their covid" was never spoken by Biden. I think @canadyjd made it up by changing a statement made in a mocking way regarding freedom and in so doing he is no better than the Democrats who quoted Trump as saying all Mexicans ate rapists and murders.

We saw this type of behavior when Trump was President. He would say one thing and the Dems would tell us what he obviously meant. If Trumo clarified it was considered trying to back out of what he said.

It was wrong of people to do that to Trump and it is wrong to do it to Biden.

Maybe you are talking about a different statement?

 

[Two Wings]

But I cannot find a statement that says or even implies that the unvaccinated desire to kill people.

The non cv vaxed arent saying that Jon. That is part of the point.

what was identified here was that the non cv vaxed are are being accused of wanting “ to kill with their covid” per the very clip from POTUS.

The noncv vaxed are being villified.

i am not sure how else to say it. I dont know how to make it any clearer.

we LITERALLY have non cv vaxed people being put into internment camps in Australia built specifically for that purpose.

gonna be a lot of crow to eat by those who have promoted the pro cv vax narrative.

those animals killed during the research & development of the Veterinarians nRNA coronavirus vax …. They died very close to a life expectancy adjusted two human years.

suggests that unless there is some treatment to eradicate the mRNA cv vax from one’s body, they may well have started a 24 month remaining time line.

i hope this isnt true … but the data on the critters makes the possibility quite real.

 

[JonC]

The non cv vaxed arent saying that Jon. That is part of the point.

what was identified here was that the non cv vaxed are are being accused of wanting “ to kill with their covid” per the very clip from POTUS.

The noncv vaxed are being villified.

i am not sure how else to say it. I dont know how to make it any clearer.

we LITERALLY have non cv vaxed people being put into internment camps in Australia built specifically for that purpose.

gonna be a lot of crow to eat by those who have promoted the pro cv vax narrative.

those animals killed during the research & development of the Veterinarians nRNA coronavirus vax …. They died very close to a life expectancy adjusted two human years.

suggests that unless there is some treatment to eradicate the mRNA cv vax from one’s body, they may well have started a 24 month remaining time line.

i hope this isnt true … but the data on the critters makes the possibility quite real.

I agree the anti-covid-vaxers are not saying that. Biden was mocking, which seems to indicate he may have forgotten (if he ever knew) that he is the US President and not the leader of a single segment of the nation.

I am not trying to justify his remark. As a citizen he has ever right to believe that the anti-covid-vaxers are exercising freedom at the cost of people's lives. But as President he should be more of a leader than to say it. To be fair Trump had the same issue at times.

My comment here is that Biden did not say the unvaccinated want to kill people. He, mockingly, said that they are exercising freedom at the cost of human lives.

The two statements (the false one canadyjd posted and the actual statement Biden said) are both controversial and can be debated. But I see no need to debate a fictional account, especially since we both agree the anti-covid-vaxers for not want to kill people.

There is, however, a legitimate discussion that can be had about exercising freedoms to take vaccinations and risks, however small, to society. This is a old debate (before covid it was largely concerning the MMR vaccines).

I have a question about animal trial data and mRNA vaccines (from my understanding this is largely tests with mice). My question is why go back to these studies when there is a study of humans vaccinated with the mRNA rabies vaccine (Oct 2013 - Feb 2018, published Oct 2018)?

 

[Two Wings]

lives. But as President he should be more of a leader than to say it. To be fair Trump had the same issue at times.

Don’t confuse Biden with Trump. Trump was a master marketer. He often used that ability to illustrate absurdity with absurdity and it worked EVERY time, though the silly media never understood they were being “plunked”

As I referenced, Biden’s statement “kill with my COVID” was a presumptive allegation against the non cv vaxed by his stating what he believes the non cv vaxed to believe... the President of the United States making that statement with sincerity. How do I now this?

Because of his other statement about “losing patience with the (non-cv-vaxed) when he announced his foolish mandate gives consistency to this referenced statement.

That is the truth, Jon.


The rabies pathogen is not the coronavirus pathogen. The problem with the current controversial vax is because it is an mRNA coronavirus agent. We are not dying over rabies, but covid19, right?

So it’s reasonable to look at the data, yes? The data with these vax candidates which are applied to the same group of pathogens with this mRNA tech may be instructive as to the future of implementation in humans. If so, the data suggests there is a possibility if not probability cv vaxed people (of the real agent, not those who received the saline, obviously) started a 24 month clock on their lives —- unless there is/will soon be a treatment to negate the effects of the self-generated and quite toxic spike protein.

I don’t offer this to scare anyone, but to provide reference to the data. If it’s ignored, that’s a choice just as the choice to consume the narrative from the CDC and the media over the last 2 years of this pestilence’s being among us.

I’m looking for the source data so you don’t have to take my word for it, but in the mean time it should be worthy to consider the possibility ... then the backdrop of the cv vax mandates? Surely a reasonable person can understand the resistance to these mandates where the only entity accepting liability for the decision is the person getting their jab.

Another manifestation of capitalizing the profit ... and socializing the responsibility for the results of bad decisions, made with a clear lack of understanding the bigger picture.

 

[JonC]

Don’t confuse Biden with Trump. Trump was a master marketer. He often used that ability to illustrate absurdity with absurdity and it worked EVERY time, though the silly media never understood they were being “plunked”

As I referenced, Biden’s statement “kill with my COVID” was a presumptive allegation against the non cv vaxed by his stating what he believes the non cv vaxed to believe... the President of the United States making that statement with sincerity. How do I now this?

Because of his other statement about “losing patience with the (non-cv-vaxed) when he announced his foolish mandate gives consistency to this referenced statement.

That is the truth, Jon.


The rabies pathogen is not the coronavirus pathogen. The problem with the current controversial vax is because it is an mRNA coronavirus agent. We are not dying over rabies, but covid19, right?

So it’s reasonable to look at the data, yes? The data with these vax candidates which are applied to the same group of pathogens with this mRNA tech may be instructive as to the future of implementation in humans. If so, the data suggests there is a possibility if not probability cv vaxed people (of the real agent, not those who received the saline, obviously) started a 24 month clock on their lives —- unless there is/will soon be a treatment to negate the effects of the self-generated and quite toxic spike protein.

I don’t offer this to scare anyone, but to provide reference to the data. If it’s ignored, that’s a choice just as the choice to consume the narrative from the CDC and the media over the last 2 years of this pestilence’s being among us.

I’m looking for the source data so you don’t have to take my word for it, but in the mean time it should be worthy to consider the possibility ... then the backdrop of the cv vax mandates? Surely a reasonable person can understand the resistance to these mandates where the only entity accepting liability for the decision is the person getting their jab.

Another manifestation of capitalizing the profit ... and socializing the responsibility for the results of bad decisions, made with a clear lack of understanding the bigger picture.

Oh....I don't confuse the two. I liked Trump.

But that does not mean I believe Trump always spoke appropriately. At a minimun.....a very minimum....some of his speeches could have done without cussing.

I am saying that it is dishonest to say somebody said something they did not say whether it was musquoting Biden or Trump.

From what is posted on this thread it seems obvious Biden did not say the unvaccinated want to kill people just as Trump did not say all Mexicans are rapists.

When dealing with the words of others it is important to at least have the integrity to deal with what was said, not what some believe may be implied.

 

[Two Wings]

So Biden didnt say his patience is wearing thin w the non cv vaxed?

I’ve re-read the challenge ... and it isn’t that Biden said all the non-cv vaxed want to kill people.

It’s that Biden has clearly taken an offensive position against those who remain non-cv. Vaxed ... his reply to the question in the interview clearly establishes that as well as his “lost patience” comment.

Your comparison of the foolish effort to declare Trump said all Mexicans are rapists is a false equivalence. You’re right to declare that effort as errant, but you seem to be misunderstanding what is noted about Biden’s estimation of non-cv vaxed. (And he’s hardly alone)

You’ve also tried to claim equivalency in some sort of persecution of the cv vaxed by the non-cv vaxed. There may be an example or two, but that is almost completely a straw man argument.

 

[Two Wings]

Wondering what the reason is behind the FDA’s wanting to keep concealed the pfizer cv vax trial data until 2076.

thoughts?