Calvinism and Deathbed Conversions

[InTheLight]

It never says that these were converted disciples. We need to be careful about reading things that are not there.

Another one for the Calvinist dictionary

Disciple: Not necessarily a believer in Jesus

 

[David Kent]

It still looks like He's talking about His disciples.

Anyone who followed Jesus were his disciples, not just the 12. And they, like you, did not like the doctrine as the did go with him after thart.

 

[David Kent]

Or, the fact that one of them was clearly not saved?
John 6:70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil? (KJV)

I believe that Judas was chosen to be the betrayer. If he wasn't jesus wouldn't have died and none would be saved. But everything was planned to the minute. Jesus came exactly 69 prophetic weeks from the command of God published by Cyrus for the city and temple to be rebuilt. He was baptised and annointed by the Holy Spirit at the beginning of the 70th prophetc week, he was cut off after the 69th week, in the middle of the prophetic week and also in the common week. As all this was planned and ordained by God, why not the one who was to betray him?

 

[loDebar]

Again, the context of the passage matters and you are ignoring it.



I'm not denying anything. You are not using proper interpretation by looking at the actual context of the verse. Text without context is a pretext.

Again, the context of the passage matters and you are ignoring it.



I'm not denying anything. You are not using proper interpretation by looking at the actual context of the verse. Text without context is a pretext.

not out of context

 

[Ran the Man]

Anyone who followed Jesus were his disciples, not just the 12. And they, like you, did not like the doctrine as the did go with him after thart.

I don't think that's what turned them away. He said from the start of that passage that they were just there for the miracles.

 

[tyndale1946]

This thread is on its deathbed.

That maybe true but it can be resurrected... Brother Glen

 

[Squire Robertsson]

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