Calvinism Misrepresents the Meaning of Death

Sorry the name Adam does not appear in EPH 2
MB

 

Not so Calvinist make false claims all the time.
MB

 

You know better same question has been asked and answered a long time ago. Besides how many questions have I asked you that you never answered.?
MB

 

Your "god" is quite the little snowflake, isn't he? I mean failure to capitalize the "J" in Jesus is "the ultimate disrespect?"

Really?

The GOD I serve is big enough to let capitalization errors roll right off Him.

 

No moving the goal posts.

You said originally said "we inherited" in this post ...

So Dave G responded with these scriptures ...

Which includes the following:

[Rom 5:12-17 NKJV]
12 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned-- 13 (For until the law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law. 14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those who had not sinned according to the likeness of the transgression of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come. 15 But the free gift [is] not like the offense. For if by the one man's offense many died, much more the grace of God and the gift by the grace of the one Man, Jesus Christ, abounded to many. 16 And the gift [is] not like [that which came] through the one who sinned. For the judgment [which came] from one [offense resulted] in condemnation, but the free gift [which came] from many offenses [resulted] in justification. 17 For if by the one man's offense death reigned through the one, much more those who receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness will reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ.)

Which everyone except you will see as supporting the original claim "we inherited".

Those passages do not say a great many things, however they do say what they say, and that addresses your original claim about our inheritance from Adam.

Ephesians 2 states "that we are actually dead in our sin", as if you were unaware of Ephesians 2.

 

I don't know that you have ever asked a question that I did not answer. I still don't know your position on whether or not you affirm the Trinity.

 

Doesn't have to. No wonder your theology is so screwed up. You have no idea how to interpret Scripture.

 

This still does not say we inherited any thing from Adam. That is in the Calvinist imagination. We all die as Adam did physcially yet we did not inherit spiritual death.Adam didn't die spiritually. We also did not sin in Adam He committed his own sin. He also did not die spiritually any where in scripture. If he did then how is it he could speak with God about his sin and how is it that Cain did the same?
MB

 

Look who's talking the guy who makes claims and offers scripture that doesn't prove his position. I'd say it is you who doesn't know what he is talking about. LOL!
MB

 

The trinity is not the subject. You keep trying to derail the thread.
MB

 

No, it is a fair question. You said if the word isn't there then it isn't true. Therefore, by that logic, you must deny the Trinity.

 

"Which everyone except you will see as supporting the original claim 'we inherited'."
(I must be a prophet.)

 

Yes, Adam did die spiritually.

• "And they heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden." - [Genesis 3:8 NKJV]
• "And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed." - [John 3:19-20 NKJV]
  
• "And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins, in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience, among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the others." - [Ephesians 2:1-3 NKJV]

 

Jesus went into Hades, Sheol, not hell, and he was quoting the Psalm while upon that Cross, as He had completed His task and finished plan of salvation, father into thy hands, does not sound like someone who was now spiritually dead!

 

Jesus NEVER spiritually died, as His was PHYSICALLY resurrected on third day!

 

Nope, but our critics really do misunderstand our theology!

 

You keep right on disrespecting the God of creation and you'll find out He is not a little snow flake. You have no fear of God and what's more you had better find some.
MB

 

None of this proves your point.
MB

 

It does, but you cannot see the truth!