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Calvinism vs Arminianism? Why either/or? Why not both?

Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by delizzle, Feb 2, 2018.

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  1. TCassidy

    TCassidy Late-Administator Emeritus
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    That is a lie. I have never said any such thing. Time to apologize.
     
    #141 TCassidy, Feb 4, 2018
  2. delizzle

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    First, does someone claiming that they are right because they claim to "use the bible" make them right? Yes or no
     
    #142 delizzle, Feb 4, 2018
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    Very edifying and emotionally mature debate going on here. . .
     
    #143 thatbrian, Feb 4, 2018
  4. delizzle

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    I know you are but what am I? Lol. Just joking. But yeah. Straw men and insults is kinda immature. From someone claiming to be a pastor no less!
     
    #144 delizzle, Feb 4, 2018
  5. Squire Robertsson

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    Six Hour Warning
    This thread will be closed sometime after 2:30 AM Pacific.
     
    #145 Squire Robertsson, Feb 4, 2018
  6. delizzle

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    Thank you.
     
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  7. TCassidy

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    Stop trying to dodge the issue. You claimed
    Either post a quote from me making such a claim or admit you lied and apologize.
     
    #147 TCassidy, Feb 4, 2018
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    Brothers... may I ask you to let this settle and put it to rest.

    Blessings,

    The Archangel


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  9. TCassidy

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    I will be glad to. As soon as he admits he lied.
     
    #149 TCassidy, Feb 4, 2018
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    John 8:7

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  11. TCassidy

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    Still ducking and dodging the FACT you claimed I said something I didn't say.
     
    #151 TCassidy, Feb 5, 2018
  12. delizzle

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    Did you delete my last post?
     
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    Stop it! You're killing your straw man! strawman-e1303770715257-1.jpg
     
    #153 delizzle, Feb 5, 2018
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    Somebody deleted two of your posts. I saw them an hour ago. They were posted right after you thanked Squire Robertson for alerting us that the thread would be closed in 6 hours. Your first post started out, "Since this thread is going to be closed soon, I'd like to say..."
     
    #154 InTheLight, Feb 5, 2018
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    Yep...no doubt the work of TCassidy. A stellar way for a "retired pastor" to be above reproach.
     
    #155 delizzle, Feb 5, 2018
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    TCassidy, in all seriousness. As one brother to another, remove "retired pastor" from your profile.
     
    #156 delizzle, Feb 5, 2018
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    I made the following statements in this thread......
    This may not have been worded exactly as TCassidy would have it worded, but this is essentially what "particular redemptionists" aka "Calvinists" teach. And my second statement was this.......

    This is absolutely true as well. According to "Arminianism" a believer CAN lose their salvation. So why is the above not a "correct" description?
    • Eternal security is also conditional: All believers have full assurance of salvation with the condition that they remain in Christ. Salvation is conditioned on faith, therefore perseverance is also conditioned.[25] Apostasy (turning from Christ) is only committed through a deliberate, willful rejection of Jesus and renunciation of saving faith. Such apostasy is irremediable.[26] Arminianism - Wikipedia

    So when TCassidy makes the above statements and I tell him that he is being dishonest(with a little emoticon as he often does) my post gets deleted for making a "provocative statement" . Why can TCassidy make rude and unkind posts and accuse people of "lying" but no one can do the same in return?
     
    #157 SheepWhisperer, Feb 5, 2018
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  18. Squire Robertsson

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    This thread is closed.
     
    #158 Squire Robertsson, Feb 5, 2018
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