Calvinistic Application Part 2

[Jarthur001]

You provided one aspect of it as did I. That in itself (like mine) is not the whole of hyper-c.

[Hyper-Calvinism] is a system of theology framed to exalt the honour and glory of God and does so by acutely minimizing the moral and spiritual responsibility of sinners . . . It emphasizes irresistible grace to such an extent that there appears to be no real need to evangelize; furthermore, Christ may be offered only to the elect. . . .
encourages introspection in the search to know whether or not one is elect. [Peter Toon, "Hyper-Calvinism," New Dictionary of Theology (Leicester: IVP, 1988), 324.]

Gospel Standard Articles of Faith...HC

XXIV We believe that the invitations of the Gospel, being spirit and life, are intended only for those who have been made by the blessed Spirit to feel their lost state as sinners and their need of Christ as their Saviour, and to repent of and forsake their sins. (Isa. 55:1, John 7:37, Prov. 28:13, Matt. 11:28-30, John 6:37.)

XXVI We deny duty faith and duty repentance - these terms signifying that it is every man's duty spiritually and savingly to repent and believe (Gen. 6:5, Gen 8:21, Matt. 15:19, Jer. 17:9, John 6:44, John 6:65.) We deny also that there is any capability in man by nature to any spiritual good whatever. So that we reject the doctrine that men in a state of nature should be exhorted to believe in or turn to God of themselves. (John 12:39-40, Eph. 2:8, Rom. 8:7-8, 1 Cor. 4:7.)

XXXIII Therefore, that for ministers in the present day to address unconverted persons, or indiscriminately all in a mixed congregation, calling upon them savingly to repent, believe, and receive Christ, or perform any other acts dependent upon the new creative power of the Holy Ghost, is, on the one hand, to imply creature power, and, on the other, to deny the doctrine of special redemption.

A good book on the subject..

Calvinism, Hyper-Calvinism and Arminianism ByTalbot and Crampton.

If you study it, Arminianism and Hyper-C is about the same thing in the end. The only thing that differs is that one thinks it is up to them to win the lost, and other feels it is wrong to witness.

 

[Me4Him]

I contend that free will in the modern context is skewed by American determinism and millenia of Greek influence into our theology. I don't see the term free will anywhere in the bible. I think the Hebrews had a different consept of will than what most people do now. One of the reasons free will was so important to the greeks was that it was the one thing they had against horrible vengful gods that played with their life. Something along the lines of "you may curse my life with plague etc but I still have my free will and it defies you." But how free is our will? We are born in sin therefore we are encumbered with sin. If I'm given a choice of leaving a round room by two doors and its dark and one door is hidden in such a way that I could never feel it. How is that really freedom?

Adam's sin condemned all "FLESH", but Adam sin did not condemn any soul other than his own soul.

We're born in a "body of flesh" condemned from Birth, but the soul is not condemned with the "body/flesh".

The soul does not share in the condemnation/depravity of the flesh.

A soul must commit it's own sin before it is condemned, and it must be committed within the "parameters" of scripture that constitude sin.

What are those "parameter".

Knowledge of good/evil, (the law)

Where there is no law (knowledge) sin is not imputed.

Ro 4:15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.

God told Adam/Eve, don't eat, (law) they did, sin was imputed.

Sin is the (Deliberate) transgression of the law,

1Jo 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

But here's the point I want to make, the depravity of the flesh won't allow it to chose Good, flesh seek only to satisfy flesh, being at enmity with God.

However the "soul" (Spirit) is not encumbered with the depravity of the flesh, it can chose either Good/Evil.

Being saved is a "Spirit" (God's spirit) to "Spirit" (soul) calling, the "flesh" is not involved.

The soul is free from the depravity of the flesh to chose either the "good" (God) or "Evil", (Flesh).

To be saved, we have to be willing to "crucify the body of sin", obviously, the flesh won't agree to that if it had any choice in the matter.

Jesus offered a "Born again Birthright" to the whole world, but people trade this "Birthright" for a "morsel of meat", the "FLESH".


Mr 8:35 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel's, the same shall save it.