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Calvinists are synergists

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thatbrian

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If the preached Word were totally the means of salvation, none could be saved except those who hear the Gospel and there are multiplied thousands who have lived and died without ever hearing the Gospel preached. Again it’s my fervent belief that "By grace are ye saved" ... see (Ephesians 2:8).

Why did Jesus give the Great Commission, if that is the case?
 

Revmitchell

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Of course, that's not the case. And your insistence on this point demonstrates that you don't understand what monergism and synergism are as they relate to salvation.

But, as I said earlier: The preacher does not work "in cooperation" with God. The preacher is the means of the delivering the gospel. Just as no one in their right mind would claim a newspaper delivery boy is involved in the publication of said newspaper, no one in their right mind can rightly claim that the preacher delivering the gospel has anything to do with the salvation it proclaims.

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Look, you calvy's need to get over it. Just because someone has a different view than you does not mean they do not understand. It makes you all look silly when you say that. This is so common among cals that it is often made fun of in other circles. Really, just stop.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Why did Jesus give the Great Commission, if that is the case?
Why, do you follow it? But irrespective of this it is about discipleship and there are many ways to achieve that... or perhaps it’s to test your own personal obedience. However I would not consider it the only way to make a connection... but I don’t stress out about it either. If God wants you, he is going to take you.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Look, you calvy's need to get over it. Just because someone has a different view than you does not mean they do not understand. It makes you all look silly when you say that. This is so common among cals that it is often made fun of in other circles. Really, just stop.
Please don’t identify me as a Calvy, I’m not and this is only one of the many issues where I disagree with them.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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What post did I do that in?
I’m just using you as a springboard for mouthing my displeasure with Calvinists. While I have the highest respect for AlbertMohler and his educated elite I dislike their arrogance in continuing do degrade others beliefs, much like I dispised my mother’s constant pronouncement that the RCC was the one true church and all others are erroneous.
 

Revmitchell

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I’m just using you as a springboard for mouthing my displeasure with Calvinists. While I have the highest respect for AlbertMohler and his educated elite I dislike their arrogance in continuing do degrade others beliefs, much like I dispised my mother’s constant pronouncement that the RCC was the one true church and all others are erroneous.

Not to beat it to death but you see them doing that quite regularly as well? Do you see it as a debate tactic or they just cant help themselves.
 

The Archangel

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Look, you calvy's need to get over it. Just because someone has a different view than you does not mean they do not understand. It makes you all look silly when you say that. This is so common among cals that it is often made fun of in other circles. Really, just stop.

Just because you disagree with our view does not mean you understand it. You are not the arbiter of truth, you are especially not the arbiter of truth for our position, and you do not get to re-define our words to fit your errant ideas, no matter how much you try. You have yet to demonstrate that you do understand. So, whatever silliness you seem to want to label us with, it's hard to label someone else as "silly" when you're insisting, despite all evidence to the contrary, that 2+2=5.

I readily affirm there are non-Calvinists that have a good and precise understanding of Calvinism. You just aren't one of them. In fact, you've never demonstrated understanding (and the key word there is "Demonstrated"). I wouldn't care if you go on rejecting Calvinism as long as you demonstrate that you understand it, which you have yet to do. Thankfully, your salvation isn't based on accepting Calvinism or demonstrating a proper understanding thereof.

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The Archangel

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I’m just using you as a springboard for mouthing my displeasure with Calvinists. While I have the highest respect for AlbertMohler and his educated elite I dislike their arrogance in continuing do degrade others beliefs, much like I dispised my mother’s constant pronouncement that the RCC was the one true church and all others are erroneous.

I would simply ask when Mohler, et al. have "degraded others' beliefs?" I understand what you're describing with your mother about the RCC, but I have no knowledge of Mohler doing such a thing. In fact, Mohler and Danny Akin are the best of friends, and Akin is nowhere near a Calvinist. Don't transfer your ill feelings about your mother's actions onto others simply because you perceive them to be doing something similar.

The Archangel
 
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