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Winman

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It is one thing to strongly and intensely disagree but it is quite another thing the way he goes about this; first and foremost his continual tactics of clearly breaking the rules by questioning others salvation which is abundantly clear to a multitude of members here concerning how he goes about this. I don’t believe one can be as clueless as he pretends to be on these issues.

His behavior is shameful regardless of the few who seem to enjoy his tactics and try to defend his actions so it can continue by attempting to throw Ad Hominems at me; these people simply share in his shame. But I am utterly fed up with his unethical methods and hope and pray the administration will finally come to recognize his unethical debate tactics and take the action to remove him from this board.

Personally, in the 6 years I have been here I have never felt it necessary to report a complaint or block someone from view. When I considered blocking him I started to wonder why I have should have to take such action to avoid being offended by the common tactics he continually uses on many others here; that doesn’t solve the problem of how he behaves here, then it seemed to me his actions are commonly recognized and the best course of action would be to bring this issue out in the open and see if some action against you might take place.

It seems clear to me he continually crosses the line of ethical debate (his tactics of questioning others salvation alone demonstrates this, as I have noted and taken issue with from within this very thread) and I strongly believe he should be held accountable these actions as it is detrimental toward trying to maintain an enjoyable peaceable atmosphere on this board.

And yes, I know I have the option to simply leave this board and that is also under consideration if this board continues to ignore this issue being it has been brought it to light.

Oh, you are quite correct, he always uses a very condescending tone toward others, and yes, he implies anyone who disagrees with him is lost. That is why I talk straight to him and call him a false teacher. He IS a false teacher.

He thinks he knows everything, many Calvinists do. They cannot see how illogical their doctrine is. I think it incredible that ANY person could believe this junk, it is so obviously not what scripture says, and it makes no sense whatsoever.

Don't let it get to you, there will always be false teachers out there.
 

Iconoclast

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It is one thing to strongly and intensely disagree but it is quite another thing the way he goes about this; first and foremost his continual tactics of clearly breaking the rules by questioning others salvation which is abundantly clear to a multitude of members here concerning how he goes about this. I don’t believe one can be as clueless as he pretends to be on these issues.

His behavior is shameful regardless of the few who seem to enjoy his tactics and try to defend his actions so it can continue by attempting to throw Ad Hominems at me; these people simply share in his shame. But I am utterly fed up with his unethical methods and hope and pray the administration will finally come to recognize his unethical debate tactics and take the action to remove him from this board.

Personally, in the 6 years I have been here I have never felt it necessary to report a complaint or block someone from view. When I considered blocking him I started to wonder why I have should have to take such action to avoid being offended by the common tactics he continually uses on many others here; that doesn’t solve the problem of how he behaves here, then it seemed to me his actions are commonly recognized and the best course of action would be to bring this issue out in the open and see if some action against you might take place.

It seems clear to me he continually crosses the line of ethical debate (his tactics of questioning others salvation alone demonstrates this, as I have noted and taken issue with from within this very thread) and I strongly believe he should be held accountable these actions as it is detrimental toward trying to maintain an enjoyable peaceable atmosphere on this board.

And yes, I know I have the option to simply leave this board and that is also under consideration if this board continues to ignore this issue being it has been brought it to light.

Poor Benjamin,

I posted a list of your recent debate fallacies including ad hominems. Before that I posted from many of your posts in this thread. Was reading your own posts repulsive to you? Or was it my drawing attention to your avoiding the scriptures to any who post different from you?

But I am utterly fed up with his unethical methods

posting what you said was unethical?

your red letter post was peachy keen....I see:wavey:
 

Iconoclast

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Oh, you are quite correct, he always uses a very condescending tone toward others, and yes, he implies anyone who disagrees with him is lost. That is why I talk straight to him and call him a false teacher. He IS a false teacher.

He thinks he knows everything, many Calvinists do. They cannot see how illogical their doctrine is. I think it incredible that ANY person could believe this junk, it is so obviously not what scripture says, and it makes no sense whatsoever.

Don't let it get to you, there will always be false teachers out there.

False teaching.. I see as this that you just posted:
Going back to the OP, if God unchangeably ordains all things that occur, then God ordains sin. Men cannot possibly do otherwise, so God would be the author of sin.

That is simple logic that cannot be denied.
Because you and your friend cannot see it, does not make your evil statement true.You post this all the time.
 

Benjamin

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Or was it my drawing attention to your avoiding the scriptures to any who post different from you?

You mean the same scriptures you will use with your tactical interpretations on to tell people they are blind and lost for not seeing it your your most High way - those scriptures?

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OldRegular

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Well, I cannot speak for every individual, but any person who claims to follow TULIP certainly believes in Unlimited Atonement.

Winman! Winman! Winman! You are demonstrating for all to see your ignorance of the Doctrines of Grace. You apparently do not understand what Unlimited Atonement means yet you continuously tell those of us who believe in those Doctrines of Grace how Biblically ignorant we are. You do not even understand what the acronym TULIP stands for yet you continuously tell those of us who believe in the Doctrines of Grace how ignorant we are about those Doctrines.

I do know that many Calvinists reject Unlimited Atonement. That said, many hold to Unlimited Atonement.

Then you do not know a single Calvinist.

If you ask me, anyone who rejects UA is not really a Calvinist, or at least not a consistent one.
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Fact is though, if you believe in UA then you cannot possibly be sure you are elect, because you cannot know for a certainty that Jesus died for you personally. That is pure logic.

You are absolutely correct on all points. You have demonstrated that your capabilities at logic exceeds that of certain others {Unnamed} on this Forum. However Benj and HoSS may be a tad better than you so you still need to strive for excellence. I believe HT may be right in there with you three folks
though! "Endeavor to Persevere" Winman as the old Indian Chief told Clint Eastwood, or was it Josey Wales?
 

Iconoclast

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You mean the same scriptures you will use with your tactical interpretations on to tell people they are blind and lost for not seeing it your your most High way - those scriptures?

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You are confusing your twisting of my words by your jaundiced eye, with my posting of Jesus words of scripture.The scripture means what it means.

This is your excuse not to answer to the scriptures. I and others call you on it and you whine like a little child...earlier you posted this:post 160
I see the Determinists have now turned to playing the martyr...poor Calvinist/Determinist/DoGs.

And now you want to whine because others see your false ideas as empty.You repeat yourself and now want me censored for posting your own words and debate fallacies... You want to take your logic and hide...its not fun and happy now....poor ben...the martyr..
you are in a debate forum,attack, then when you are shown to not be up to it....you cry about it:sleeping_2::sleeping_2:
 

Iconoclast

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Winman! Winman! Winman! You are demonstrating for all to see your ignorance of the Doctrines of Grace. You apparently do not understand what Unlimited Atonement means yet you continuously tell those of us who believe in those Doctrines of Grace how Biblically ignorant we are. You do not even understand what the acronym TULIP stands for yet you continuously tell those of us who believe in the Doctrines of Grace how ignorant we are about those Doctrines.



Then you do not know a single Calvinist.

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You are absolutely correct on all points. You have demonstrated that your capabilities at logic exceeds that of certain others {Unnamed} on this Forum. However Benj and HoSS may be a tad better than you so you still need to strive for excellence. I believe HT may be right in there with you three folks
though! "Endeavor to Persevere" Winman as the old Indian Chief told Clint Eastwood, or was it Josey Wales?


It is almost unbelievable.:thumbs:
 

Benjamin

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I see the Determinists have now turned to playing the martyr...poor Calvinist/Determinist/DoGs.
And now you want to whine because others see your false ideas as empty.You repeat yourself and now want me censored for posting your own words and debate fallacies... You want to take your logic and hide...its not fun and happy now....poor ben...the martyr..
you are in a debate forum,attack, then when you are shown to not be up to it....you cry about it

You refer to my comment being made in the context of those tactics coming after you repeatedly evaded the argument through avoiding reasoning for your position by claiming God Himself has defined "your" interpretations. Another common abominable practice of yours that is clearly apprehensible.

Originally posted by Iconoclast:
GOD defines all truth and gives meaning to all things.

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Rarely do I ever post anything that could even be suggested to question to someone’s salvation, this far from your common tactics of purposely doing exactly that, nor would this or mere rhetorical Ad Hominems (referring to being a martyr) justify your common and well known actions as seen numerous times within this very thread which question salvation as well as speak of your "special revelation". I would expect to hear such claims from a cult member but not a Baptist!
 
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