Can a Christian be a Mason?

Hi John V;
If I said the sky is blue you would want to argue about it.
Romanbear
Peace

 

Dear Roman,
The problem is my oath is no a living being to trust or not trust, the person (me) is the who you trust or not trust.
Mark

 

Jim, I think perhaps you have been buying the disinformation that Freemasonry is actually secret. I have never had any offical contact with Freemasonry (I didn't join), but I didn't have any problem getting first hand information. Besides the usual expose type books by Christians who have left the Lodge, I have personally talked to former members and present members. I have read books penned by Masonic authors for Masons (got them from public libraries). I take what they say about themselves seriously, unless you think they have all somhow conspired to lie to me in a very similar manner.

To answer the question. Masonry is satanic. If you were to visit a meeting you would probably go away snickering at grown men playing "club" like little boys. But, I assure you that the prospect of teaching a different way to heaven than Jesus Christ is anything but funny.
My church has no stand. They are either afraid to "hurt someone's feelings" or don't care.
I would leave if they explictly said it was OK.
I love my church and don't want to leave becasue of their tacit approval.
I was going to be nice on this thread, oh, well, maybe next time.

 

When Paul states "before God" and "With God as my witness" that is completley different to the masonic oath wich you pledge death upon yourself and other hideous acts. If you should reveal any of their secrets. One being the fact that you must participate in rituals to the Egyptian God Osaris in order to move up certain degrees.

Jesus told you not to swear oaths. Freemasonty requires you to publically swear a binding oath upon yourself, an oath that is extremley Unchristian and Unscriptural. If you take the words of Jesus seriously, you will soon see that you cannot be under this or any man made oath. You will need to repent, which means choosing.

 

Could have said that earlier and saved me some digging

ok, I'll pass on them too then

The scouts info I pasted was for the Pom variety, if the Yank version is different I'll have to pass on them...

*sigh* What's the world coming to when I think some Poms have a not bad idea...

Yep, I saw all that info on the Habitat web page. They still sound ok.

Pete

[ January 09, 2003, 05:37 AM: Message edited by: Titus2_1 ]

 

I used to belong to a secret club. We had a clubhouse in the pear tree in the back yard.

"When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things."

 

This is from one of their books about themselves.

From "Webb's Monitor of Freemasonry"
by Dr. Robert Morris
Past Grand Master of Kentucky

p. 213 (Under the word "CHAPLAIN") " The Master of the Lodge is its priest, and the director of its religious ceremonies. His duty is to select the scriptures, prayers, &c., and he shall be present at the burial of the dead. A meeting of a Masonic Lodge is a religious ceremony. Masonry in many features is a religious as well as a moral institution."

p. 280 "So broad is the religion of Masonry, and so carefully are all sectarian tenets excluded from the system, that the Christian, the Jew, the Mohammedan, in all their numberless sects and divisions, may, and do harmoniously combine in its moral and intellectual work with the Buddist, the Farsee, the Confucian, and the worshiper of Diety under every form."

It's a religion, folks. Any religion that isn't Christian, even it it accepts Christians, still isn't Christian. It is a false religion and no Christian has any business being a part of it.

 

Every Sunday in the fall and winter 66,000 people in St. Louis and the surrounding area "tithe" $39 to $47 to worship their Rams and their high priest, Kurt Warner (who is a Christian). They arrive hours before the service to fellowhip with their brother and sister Rams fans. Tens of thousands more faithfully follow the worship service on on TV, while millions every Sunday tune into their local "services" from the Meadowlands, Pro Palyer Stadium and Arlington Stadium. I, myself, am often a participant in this worship. Sports is the true religion of America, but you all go ahead and worry about this handful of old men meeting in secret and enjoying a chili dinner together once a month. I can see they are the true threat to Christendom. SARCASM ALERT!

 

If the Rams or any other Major Sports team depended on me to survive they would have to play in my backyard on Sat. Afternoon.

 

Should I have gone for the Chiefs? I didn't check to where New Bloomsfield is. I think you see my point though... the stadiums just keep getting bigger and America has become addicted to sports, obviously not everybody, but there are a lot more serious Sports Addicts then there are Masons. Maybe I am more sensitive to it because I am a high school coach and I se the way pro athletes are literally worshipped.