Heavenly Pilgrim
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Let me try and spell it out for those that may not have followed the logic to my questions.
It is held by many, including all Calvinists, that Christ has literally paid for sins on the cross. They maintain that all sins of the believer, including past, present, and future have been atoned for. If in fact they are atoned for in the literal sense that Calvinism suggests, they would not, nor could they ever be held against the ones for whom Christ died?
Scripture states that when God forgives He casts those sins into the sea of forgetfulness never to be remembered again. If the position of a literal payment is correct, Christ would forgive and forget sins before they were even committed. God’s law would have no bearing upon such sins nor would any established penalty for sin be possibly inflicted. God could not even remember them to inflict a penalty if the position we are addressing is true.
That leads me to the questions I asked. I asked, “Can God forget something before it happens??” If in fact God forgave and forgot sins on the cross two thousand years before they happened, is my question not a valid one?
I also asked if in fact “according to Scripture, can it be said that God forgave a sin that He still remembers??” God alone is responsible for attaching the word sin to any intent or action. God alone will be the judge of all sin. Can He remember any sins, even to chastise a believer for committing sin, if in fact He did as He promised He does and forgets all sins that have been forgiven and are under the blood? When one tells us that a believer is chastised for sin by God, does that not make God to be seen as completely inconsistent with His own Word of 'forgetting all sins that have been forgiven,' past, present, and future as we so often hear? I am certain DHK would ask if that makes God out to be a liar. Well, does it?
It is held by many, including all Calvinists, that Christ has literally paid for sins on the cross. They maintain that all sins of the believer, including past, present, and future have been atoned for. If in fact they are atoned for in the literal sense that Calvinism suggests, they would not, nor could they ever be held against the ones for whom Christ died?
Scripture states that when God forgives He casts those sins into the sea of forgetfulness never to be remembered again. If the position of a literal payment is correct, Christ would forgive and forget sins before they were even committed. God’s law would have no bearing upon such sins nor would any established penalty for sin be possibly inflicted. God could not even remember them to inflict a penalty if the position we are addressing is true.
That leads me to the questions I asked. I asked, “Can God forget something before it happens??” If in fact God forgave and forgot sins on the cross two thousand years before they happened, is my question not a valid one?
I also asked if in fact “according to Scripture, can it be said that God forgave a sin that He still remembers??” God alone is responsible for attaching the word sin to any intent or action. God alone will be the judge of all sin. Can He remember any sins, even to chastise a believer for committing sin, if in fact He did as He promised He does and forgets all sins that have been forgiven and are under the blood? When one tells us that a believer is chastised for sin by God, does that not make God to be seen as completely inconsistent with His own Word of 'forgetting all sins that have been forgiven,' past, present, and future as we so often hear? I am certain DHK would ask if that makes God out to be a liar. Well, does it?
