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Can you still be christian if you reject Paul's teachings?

JesusFan

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Christians are someone who follow Jesus , if you believe and follow the words and gospel of jesus christ but reject paul's teachings, can you still call yourself christians?
which are you rejecting? as all of his theology was inspired by the Holy Spirit, so question is like asking can we reject some of Jesus teachings and still be good christians?
 

JesusFan

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The full gospel is indeed in the 4 Gospels, and the Epistles flesh it out for us, provide full revelation on what the gospel is and how to apply it to our lives
 

Alan Dale Gross

Active Member

We should have confidence that Paul articulated “the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God” faithfully.

His concepts and language have roots deep within the Old Testament and in the ministry and message of Jesus as recorded in the Gospels.

We should be bolstered in our belief that the entirety of the Scriptures perfectly reveals God to his people.

He entrusted his church with 66 books, and the early church placed these books alongside each other as Christian Scripture.

"We mustn’t elevate our own reasoning to unhitch portions of what God has revealed to his church.

"If we manipulate what’s left
into a supposedly biblical argument, we fall into representing our sensibilities rather than God’s truth."
 
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JesusFan

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We should have confidence that Paul articulated “the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God” faithfully.

His concepts and language have roots deep within the Old Testament and in the ministry and message of Jesus as recorded in the Gospels.

We should be bolstered in our belief that the entirety of the Scriptures perfectly reveals God to his people.

He entrusted his church with 66 books, and the early church placed these books alongside each other as Christian Scripture.

"We mustn’t elevate our own reasoning to unhitch portions of what God has revealed to his church.

"If we manipulate what’s left
into a supposedly biblical argument, we fall into representing our sensibilities rather than God’s truth."
Lord Jesus, Yahweh in human flesh, vouched for Paul theology, as was revealed to him by the Holy Spirit
 

JesusFan

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Huh. Too many points of argument. Your points of difficulty are not clear to me. What issue do you want me first to address?

Both Paul and John present Christ as both as Lord being a man and being God by being our sole access to God.
Jesus is very God in Human flesh
 

JesusFan

Well-Known Member
Upon reflection, I'm going to have to change my answer.

You can be a Christian and not know or believe much of Paul's teachings. Christianity existed before Paul became a Christian.

But I do not think you can be a Christian and reject Paul's teaching (at least for the most part).

The difference is knowingly rejecting God's Word opposed to simple ignorance.
many who claim to be Christians today reject inspired revelation of Paul regardingthings such as men and women differing roles in church, alternate life styles, doctrines such as full inspiration and infallibility etc
 

JesusFan

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No! Not at all! The Bible does not contain the word of God, it is the word of God. All of it! 'If anyone thinks himself to be a prophet or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things I write to you are the commandments of God' (1 Corinthians 14:37).
That part about difference between contains and being very word of God sounds like something karl barth would amen
 

JonC

Moderator
Moderator
many who claim to be Christians today reject inspired revelation of Paul regardingthings such as men and women differing roles in church, alternate life styles, doctrines such as full inspiration and infallibility etc
They do. But to be fair it can be a more involved issue.

For example, is it wrong for women to have short hair and men to have long hair? What is the standard for men (some think mine long, but it is above my collar and I think it fairly short). There is the role of deacon.

So some accept Paul's teaching as both inspired and infallible while also believing Paul employed cultural norms to illustrate greater principles.



Note: I'm with you on Paul's teaching, just bringing up that other position for the sake of discussion.
 

JesusFan

Well-Known Member
They do. But to be fair it can be a more involved issue.

For example, is it wrong for women to have short hair and men to have long hair? What is the standard for men (some think mine long, but it is above my collar and I think it fairly short). There is the role of deacon.

So some accept Paul's teaching as both inspired and infallible while also believing Paul employed cultural norms to illustrate greater principles.



Note: I'm with you on Paul's teaching, just bringing up that other position for the sake of discussion.
The big problem though is that those who either reject or water down Pauline theology do so by cultural norms, current thinking, basically by rejecting Paul teachings pretty much as being homophobic, not PC, ignorant, that he was just plain wring etc
 

37818

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Lord Jesus, Yahweh in human flesh, vouched for Paul theology, as was revealed to him by the Holy Spirit
While Jesus is being Yahweh as the Christ, He is also Lord district from being Yahweh per Psalm 110:1, The LORD said unto my Lord, . . .
 
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