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Canada passes another liberty limiting law.

TCassidy

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Matt Black and Golden Dragon were participating in a pretty civilized discussion and your continued running joke was not useful or respectful. I think you know this.
So, should I assume you missed the point of my posts?

Here, let me spell it out for you: Should political correctness force people to call other people by whatever words they want to be used to address them even when they know they words are not true? In other words, should political correctness be allowed to force me to lie?

I apologize if the point was too subtle.
 

Gold Dragon

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So, should I assume you missed the point of my posts?

Here, let me spell it out for you: Should political correctness force people to call other people by whatever words they want to be used to address them even when they know they words are not true? In other words, should political correctness be allowed to force me to lie?

I apologize if the point was too subtle.

Pollitical correctness shouldn't force you to do anything. But general human decency, maturity beyond puberty and Christian grace should hopefully keep people from making themselves look like fools by being rude and disrespectful to someone for their gender identity.

That doesn't mean you have to agree with their decision or even be silent about suggesting alternatives to their choices in a loving manner.
 

TCassidy

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Christian grace should hopefully keep people from making themselves look like fools by being rude and disrespectful to someone for their gender identity.
And when was I rude to or disrespectful to someone regarding their gender identity? Please include the post number with your quote. Thank you.
 

Use of Time

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And when was I rude to or disrespectful to someone regarding their gender identity? Please include the post number with your quote. Thank you.

Gold Dragon got my response in sooner than I could but if you think your posting in here has been a show of respect the we are just going to disagree. You know full well which posts I'm talking about. If you responded that way in a scenario in which you encountered someone of the transgender community would you honestly think it to be a resepectful position to take? Is that how you actually plan to handle such situations in the future?
 

Gold Dragon

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And when was I rude to or disrespectful to someone regarding their gender identity? Please include the post number with your quote. Thank you.
I was speaking more generally and not specifically with regard to your posts here.

But, you were mocking Matt for suggesting it was rude not to address folks with their preferred title. You didn't specifically address folks with gender identity issues but implied their request to be called by their preferred title was ridiculous.
 

TCassidy

Late-Administator Emeritus
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Gold Dragon got my response in sooner than I could but if you think your posting in here has been a show of respect the we are just going to disagree.
Show me one post where I was disrespectful regarding anyone with any gender disorder, real or imagined.

You know full well which posts I'm talking about.
Yes. None. Not one.

If you responded that way in a scenario in which you encountered someone of the transgender community would you honestly think it to be a resepectful position to take?
You mean someone like Matt disrespecting people by making false claims regarding his own conduct then condemning others for the same actions?

Is that how you actually plan to handle such situations in the future?
Do I plan to point out self-righteous hypocrisy? Yes!
 

TCassidy

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I was speaking more generally and not specifically with regard to your posts here.
You did post that accusation right under your quote of me. I could only assume you were addressing me.
But, you were mocking Matt for suggesting it was rude not to address folks with their preferred title.
No, I was pointing that Matt was not living up to his own standard.

You didn't specifically address folks with gender identity issues but implied their request to be called by their preferred title was ridiculous.
No, I implied that Matt was engaging in self-righteous hypocrisy.
 

Gold Dragon

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You did post that accusation right under your quote of me. I could only assume you were addressing me.

I was addressing what you felt "political correctness" was forcing you to do.

Matt and everyone else knew you were being facetious. If he felt you really wanted to have that title he would have responded differently.
 

TCassidy

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I was addressing what you felt "political correctness" was forcing you to do.
Nothing is forcing me to do anything. After over 70 years of standing my ground I am not all that malleable.

But I will defend those who are victims of the political correctness sickness, who are bullied and badgered by the fascists who demand their opinions, and only their opinions, are valid and have the right to be spoken.
 

Matt Black

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You have mistaken me for someone else. I am the one who has been preaching respect for all people on this forum for 17 years.

My point is that Matt Black said it is "Good manners to address people how they would like to be addressed;"

To which I replied:

"Great! In the future, please address me as "Your Imperial Majesty." After all, I self identify as the Emperor of the Universe."

Which he has steadfastly refused to do, thus displaying he fails to live up to his own standard of "good manners."

Why should anyone be forced to address someone in a way they know is untrue?

30 years ago, when I was still with the Sheriff's Department we would occasionally book a "transgendered" person (we used to call them transvestites) into County jail.

We didn't care how they looked. How they dressed. How they wanted to be addressed.

One thing and one thing only determined if they went to the men's jail or the woman's jail. And that was determined solely by their genitalia. Mail genitalia went to the men's jail. Lack of male genitalia went to the woman's jail. No problem.

OK, couple of points as time does not permit. Firstly, you are conflating transvestite with transgender. They are two different things. Secondly, the policy you describe, far from being 'no problem', has resulted in suicides of transgendered individuals.
 

Use of Time

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Nothing is forcing me to do anything. After over 70 years of standing my ground I am not all that malleable.

But I will defend those who are victims of the political correctness sickness, who are bullied and badgered by the fascists who demand their opinions, and only their opinions, are valid and have the right to be spoken.

Not all heroes wear capes folks. :Rolleyes
 

TCassidy

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What a caring, Christian response!
I agree. A true Christian cares for the Truth of God's word.

1 Tius 5:20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

2 Titus 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

Titus 1:13 This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;

Titus 2:15 These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.

Revelation 3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

You cannot love someone with the Love of Christ without rebuking their sin and proclaiming the Gospel of repentance from dead works and faith in the Crucified, Risen Savior.
 
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