I have used a fire hose with nozzle training for fire fighting. Do not present falsehoods.
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Car catches on fire
- Thread starter Salty
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And now another EC vehicle fire!
Ford stops production of electric F-150 after battery fire
Ford stops production of electric F-150 after battery fire
canadyjd
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Spontaneous fire during pre-delivery inspection. Production of electric F150 halted.
Another step toward people waking up to the dangers of these vehicles.
peace to you
And the drum beat of disinformation continues...
Has the actual cause of the fire, whether improper manufacture or design flaw been announced? Nope. Has Ford found the problem? Yes.
Does Ford think they can implement corrective action within a "few weeks?" Yes
Right, mandating EV's is wrong. Making false claims about the viability of EV with LFP batteries is wrong. Those that believe in freedom, which is Biblically endorsed, say let the market decide when to get, if ever, an EV.
As of yet I do not think any EV is available with an American made (not China made) LFP battery. When and if, then I expect the market to move to EV's. Time will tell...
The LFP battery packs will become standard on the Select base trim of Mustang Mach-E electric crossover this year, and the base XLT version of the F-150 Lightning full-size pickup truck next year, as Ford announced last July.
As of yet I do not think any EV is available with an American made (not China made) LFP battery. When and if, then I expect the market to move to EV's. Time will tell...
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canadyjd
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If the company making the electric car is getting hundreds of millions in taxpayer money to subsidize the price, it is no longer the free market at work. It is socialism
Car batteries cannot be recycled. All Car batteries will rupture eventually. Car batteries will leak massive amounts of toxins into the environment when they rupture.
Car companies support child slave labor in Africa, that kills children in unsafe mines to obtain the massive amounts of heavy metals and toxins needed to make the battery.
People who drive EV’s support child slave labor in Africa and the destruction of the environment when these batteries rupture and explode.
EV’s should be banned on moral grounds, if you care about children and the environment.
peace to you
Car batteries cannot be recycled. All Car batteries will rupture eventually. Car batteries will leak massive amounts of toxins into the environment when they rupture.
Car companies support child slave labor in Africa, that kills children in unsafe mines to obtain the massive amounts of heavy metals and toxins needed to make the battery.
People who drive EV’s support child slave labor in Africa and the destruction of the environment when these batteries rupture and explode.
EV’s should be banned on moral grounds, if you care about children and the environment.
peace to you
LOL, Ford is trying to fill the back log of orders.
Ford plans to be making roughly 12,500 Lightnings a month by the end of the year. That should put full-year deliveries between 80,000 and 90,000.
Lightning Customer Review:
Great truck 2022 Lariat ER, exceeded all expectations. Range is not an issue, have not had any close calls yet. No maintenance issues- I have driven it 12k. I know long distance towing is an issue, but short trips, commuting, or around town it is great. A pleasure to drive! Great on the highway driving assistance is great at night, fog or rain. I have friend who own Ford trucks and gave me lip service about Lightning until they drove it-instant converts! They all love it.
canadyjd
Well-Known Member
Apparently, the propaganda isn’t close to reality. See post #30. Let’s see how many they produce as they continue to spontaneously burst into flames, spewing toxic heavy metals into the air and water.
EV’s require literally tons of hazardous heavy metals and toxins to produce. Mined by child slave Labor that kills many children and is completely unnecessary since global climate change is a lie pushed by Marxists and Communists attempting to destroy the USA.
And if they were really so popular, Ford wouldn’t need hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars to subsidize production.
peace to you
Anecdotal evidence as provided in posts #30 and #32 is not as reliable an indication of customer satisfaction as people abandoning their old car make, and going to Ford for the Lightning. Maybe not having to pay 50 cents more per gallon in California than the rest of the states, or getting the expensive smog check, and if necessary repair. Not to mention the Catalytic Converter thieves.
But here is a very telling snippet indicating demand exceeds supply:
But here is a very telling snippet indicating demand exceeds supply:
Ford Motor Co., concerned about its reputation and customer complaints related to the upcoming launch of the F-150 Lightning, is warning dealers not to upsell reservations for the popular EV truck and also wants customers to sign a contract preventing them from reselling it within a year, according to a letter from the automaker to its dealers.
And here is a link about Lightning high demand:
The Ford F-150 Lightning Is Still Struggling With Demand
And here is a link about Lightning high demand:
The Ford F-150 Lightning Is Still Struggling With Demand
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canadyjd
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There you have it folks. Forget the child slave labor in dangerous mines, killing children. Forget the poisonous toxins and heavy metals that will be released into the environment when the batteries rupture (and every single in of them will rupture one day, leaking the poison).
Forget the hundreds of millions in taxpayer dollars being paid to car companies to produce the vehicles (without the subsidies, the EV’s would never come to market)
Just push the propaganda that 1. EV’S are needed to save the planet. 2. They are very popular, despite spontaneously bursting into flames.
Ford would produce one EV if the federal government wasn’t giving them OUR taxpayer dollars to subsidize the cost.
The only thing that matters is people get
to say “OH LOOK AT ME! I LOVE THE EARTH AND YOU DON’T”
All over a non existent climate crisis being pushed by Marxists and communists to destroy the USA.
Peace to you
One falsehood after another. Everyone knows the LFP batteries do not contain "heavy metals." Everyone knows vehicle fires occur at eight times the rate in fossil fuel vehicles than in BEV.
Do not listen to the false claims of those invested in the fossil fueled economy. Let the market decide, rather than those lacking a concern for truth.
canadyjd
Well-Known Member
And the beat goes on, ignoring the truth child slave labor is not involved in the production of LFP battery raw material mining in the USA or Canada.
But we agree, EV subsidies reflect unnecessary government action. Ditto for government's war on fossil fuel. The bible says we should not put our thumb on the scale. We should persuade, not compel or use unfair practices. OTOH, the government should advance inititives that bolster our national security, like energy independence. That would include facilitating manufacturing in the USA of LFP batteries, solar panels, and a robust power grid. The practice of blocking fossil and nuclear power generation while subsidizing wind farms should stop.
canadyjd
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I guess you only care about children in the USA and Canada.
Most of the heavy metals and toxins used to produce the batteries are mined in Africa, China.
Probably the most disingenuous post I’ve ever seen. You sound just like a politician attempting to obfuscate the issue. How incredibly sad.
peace to you
I cannot believe this poster has completely missed the fact, repeatedly posted, that LFP cells contain no heavy metals.
I cannot believe this poster has completely missed the fact, repeatedly posted, that LFP cells contain no heavy metals.
I cannot believe this poster has completely missed the fact, repeatedly posted, that LFP cells contain no heavy metals.
Maybe by repeating something three times in one post the penny will drop.
