Carter Walks Back Claim That Obama Critics Are Racist

[alatide]

I don't hate Jimmy Carter.

He is no longer a Southern Baptist. He is CBF. Enough said.

So you're against him because he's not a Southern Baptist? Did you support him when he was?

 

[sag38]

I'm not going to play games with you Tidy. If you have anything relevant to add I'd be glad to address it.

 

[just-want-peace]

Carter is nothing more than a has-been socialist with an acute case of verbal diarrhea that is cringing at his growing monumental irrelevance!

 

[Jerome]

Irrelevant?

Carter is a charter member of the "Justice League of Peace": The Elders.

www.theelders.org

The Elders are an independent group of eminent global leaders, brought together by Nelson Mandela, who offer their collective influence and experience to support peace building, help address major causes of human suffering and promote the shared interests of humanity.

www.cartercenter.org

Aug. 31, 2009 Rosalynn and I arrived in Jerusalem before the other Elders, and on Monday we met with Ahmed Tiki...

That evening we joined Elders Desmond Tutu, Fernando Cardoso, Ela Bhatt, Mary Robinson, and Gro Brundtland, and CEO Mabel van Oranje. Our purpose was to learn as much as possible about the complex region in order to use our influence to promote human rights and the ongoing peace process.

The Elders do not represent any government or official agency, and the group is not involved as mediators or negotiators. Before leaving our hotel in East Jerusalem, we sent a brief report of our observations to President Barack Obama, who has assumed the difficult role of leading the peace effort in the region.

 

[alatide]

Carter is nothing more than a has-been socialist with an acute case of verbal diarrhea that is cringing at his growing monumental irrelevance!

President Carter is a Nobel Peace Prize winner. He's done a great deal for poor people through his Habitat for Humanity program. But he's a Democrat so you bad mouth him. Let's see what GW does after his presidency. He isn't fit to tie Jimmy's shoe laces.

 

[rbell]

Let's try this example. (It's likely a waste of time, but maybe a miracle will happen):

I'm a hospital administrator. I have two candidates for heart surgeon. One is an outstanding surgeon...but I am unsure about his faith. The other is a good Christian, as well as a med school dropout. Am I a pagan for voting for candidate #1?

Just because someone is a Christian does not mean they are cut out for the job.

Bumped, yet again...to see if alatide will deal with the issues raised.

 

[sag38]

Keep praising Jimmy Carter. Your only helping to prove our point.

 

[Mexdeaf]

President Carter is a Nobel Peace Prize winner. He's done a great deal for poor people through his Habitat for Humanity program. But he's a Democrat so you bad mouth him.

Yasser Arafat was a Nobel Peace Prize winner. He did a great deal for poor people through through the PLO. But because he was an Arab...

:smilewinkgrin:

GWB is at least keeping his mouth shut.

 

[alatide]

Bumped, yet again...to see if alatide will deal with the issues raised.

Every can choose their surgeon using their own criteria. That is of course if you have insurance but then the insurance company will restrict your choice. I had an aortic aneurysm repaired which was right next to my heart. I myself did not ask my surgeon what his religion was. I did check his background and reputation and talked to two people in my church who knew him. One had been operated on by him and the other had worked with him as an anesthesiologist. All spoke very highly of him and I was very pleased with the outcome.

My twin brother had the same condition but didn't actually have much choice because he didn't have health insurance due to pastoring a very poor church for 7 years for almost no money and no benefits. Let me rephrase that. He got a LOT of benefits but no insurance. His heart surgeon was a good Christian man and performed the surgery free because of his support for my brother’s ministry. My brother also had an excellent outcome.

We're talking about politics here. I think the same general principle applies. My first choice in each case would be the best person for the job and also a confessing Christian. My second choice would be the best person for the job. Since I really didn't see any real difference in the faith of the two candidates in the last election, I voted for the best man.

What I have difficulty accepting is people who say they want Christian leaders but what they really mean is they want Republican leaders who also appear to be Christian. In Jimmy Carter's case, I voted for the highly skilled Christian.

Jimmy Carter has shown through his actions after leaving the White House that he really cares about people in need. Has any other post WW2 president done as much after leaving the White House? Not that I can see. Jimmy Carter was the first president to confess that he is a born again Christian. He taught Sunday School classes before, during, and after his presidency. What do you think the odds are that George W Bush will EVER do that?

 

[Alcott]

He taught Sunday School classes before, during, and after his presidency. What do you think the odds are that George W Bush will EVER do that?

Zero, because he cannot serve any more terms as president.

 

[canadyjd]

Former President Jimmy Carter on Thursday softened his claim that an "overwhelming portion" of criticism toward President Obama is race-based.

Carter said in an interview that he was only talking about a "fringe element" when he made the controversial remarks two weeks ago.

"I said those that had a personal attack on President Obama as a person, that was tinged with racism," Carter told CNN. "But I recognize that people that disagree with him on health care or the environment, that the vast majority of those are not tinged with racism."

There is only one response that is appropriate.

"Mr. President.... you lie!"

"You lie" when you made your race-baiting comments.

"You lie" now, trying to re-write history about your race-baiting comments.

Imagine, the Nobel peace prize going to a man whose race-baiting comments devide the nation, creating more strife and hatred between the races.

peace to youraying:

 

[alatide]

There is only one response that is appropriate.

"Mr. President.... you lie!"

"You lie" when you made your race-baiting comments.

"You lie" now, trying to re-write history about your race-baiting comments.

Imagine, the Nobel peace prize going to a man whose race-baiting comments devide the nation, creating more strife and hatred between the races.

peace to youraying:

I was born in the South and have lived there about half of my life. I love the South and am proud to call myself a Southerner. I believe that relationships between the races in the South has improved greatly during my life time. I also believe that there was significant racial prejudice in other parts of the country. (The Newark riots, Watts riots, Detroit riots, Boston busing riots, etc.) However, none of those other areas were as flagrant as the deep South with rest room and lunch counter signs saying for whites only.

With that background here are the facts from the 2008 presidential election:
http://www.pollster.com/blogs/white_vote_for_obama_in_the_st_1.php


Nationally, 43% of all white voters voted for Obama,

In the deep South (Alabama, Miss., LA) the white vote for Obama was about 10-15%, and in Georgia, SC and Texas about 25%.

There is very definitely a pattern here. One explanation might be racial prejudice.

How can you say definitively that that is a LIE? What's YOUR evidence?

 

[sag38]

Many in the South did not vote for President Obama because of his politics and not his skin color. Black, white, pink, purple doesn't matter to me. If they are liberal in their politics I'm not going to vote for them no matter how many Sunday School classes they have taught, no matter how many Habitat houses they have built, and no matter how many times they have said "I am a born again Christian." Some folks just can't help but to see the majority of white Southerners wearing a white hood every Saturday night. And, the sad thing is that many southern yellow dog democrats perpetuate this stereotype. By the way Tidy, please keep it up. Your helping out tremendously.

 

[Winman]

Nationally, 43% of all white voters voted for Obama,

In the deep South (Alabama, Miss., LA) the white vote for Obama was about 10-15%, and in Georgia, SC and Texas about 25%.

There is very definitely a pattern here. One explanation might be racial prejudice.

How can you say definitively that that is a LIE? What's YOUR evidence?

Alatide, have you ever heard the term, "Bible Belt"?

The south has been conservative in it's politics for decades.

Bigotry is everywhere. I am a southerner myself but have lived in New England for much of my life. You would be surprised at the bigotry here. In my opinion there is far more hostility against blacks up here than I ever experienced down south. I know of many people here who said they would not vote for Obama because he was black. I did not vote for Obama, but not because of his skin color. I would vote for a conservative black man or woman who stands for Christian values in a heartbeat. Obama is too socialist for me, and I did not like that he supported abortion.

You gotta love the Dems, they try to portray conservative white people as bigots by playing the race card. :laugh:

 

[Bob Alkire]

Nationally, 43% of all white voters voted for Obama,

In the deep South (Alabama, Miss., LA) the white vote for Obama was about 10-15%, and in Georgia, SC and Texas about 25%.

There is very definitely a pattern here. One explanation might be racial prejudice.

How can you say definitively that that is a LIE? What's YOUR evidence?

I too am a southerner, I am white and I didn't vote for Obama. I didn't vote for Obama due to his political views, and reading about his past and his voting record. Also I didn't agree with the Black revolutionary theology of the church where he was a member. Most of us go to a church where we agree with the theology. As with most white men I know in the south, I'm very conservative in my views.

Would you or could you give the record of blacks voting for Obama? I don't know but in most races down here if a black runs for office and they are democrats about 93% or more blacks vote for them.

I could vote for a black as fast as a white or anyother race if I agreed with them. I could vote for Thomas Sowell if he ever ran for office before 95% of the whites who run.

I didn't vote for Carter and I liked the sign the Ga. Farmers put up in Ga. while he was president, they didn't care for Carter either.

At the church that I go to about 95% of the blacks voted for Obama and about 45% of the white did. Most of our members are from the northeast, maybe about 10 to 15% from the south.

 

[rbell]

Every can choose their surgeon using their own criteria. That is of course if you have insurance but then the insurance company will restrict your choice. I had an aortic aneurysm repaired which was right next to my heart. I myself did not ask my surgeon what his religion was. I did check his background and reputation and talked to two people in my church who knew him. One had been operated on by him and the other had worked with him as an anesthesiologist. All spoke very highly of him and I was very pleased with the outcome.

My twin brother had the same condition but didn't actually have much choice because he didn't have health insurance due to pastoring a very poor church for 7 years for almost no money and no benefits. Let me rephrase that. He got a LOT of benefits but no insurance. His heart surgeon was a good Christian man and performed the surgery free because of his support for my brother’s ministry. My brother also had an excellent outcome.

We're talking about politics here. I think the same general principle applies. My first choice in each case would be the best person for the job and also a confessing Christian. My second choice would be the best person for the job. Since I really didn't see any real difference in the faith of the two candidates in the last election, I voted for the best man.

What I have difficulty accepting is people who say they want Christian leaders but what they really mean is they want Republican leaders who also appear to be Christian. In Jimmy Carter's case, I voted for the highly skilled Christian.

Jimmy Carter has shown through his actions after leaving the White House that he really cares about people in need. Has any other post WW2 president done as much after leaving the White House? Not that I can see. Jimmy Carter was the first president to confess that he is a born again Christian. He taught Sunday School classes before, during, and after his presidency. What do you think the odds are that George W Bush will EVER do that?

Wow...so you'd choose "professing Christian" over qualifications?

So, a 35 year-old high-school dropout would trump a governor or US senator in your book? Riiiiiight.....

Sorry...I don't believe you for a second.

I believe when you say "Professing Christian," you mean "Professing Christian who is a democrat and supports liberal causes." At least, that's what your rhetoric and actions have shouted.

So, why don't you restate your position, this time being more truthful?

 

[rbell]

There is very definitely a pattern here. One explanation might be racial prejudice.

How can you say definitively that that is a LIE? What's YOUR evidence?

So...opposing Obama means one is a racist?

You call that "evidence?"

What a profoundly ridiculous supposition.

I could point out that many of the "racists" you accuse would gladly support a black candidate who wasn't in favor of the takeover of our private lives by the federal government.

But then that would mess up your rant, and your duct-taped reality you have managed to construct...

 

[Revmitchell]

So...opposing Obama means one is a racist?

You call that "evidence?"

What a profoundly ridiculous supposition.

I could point out that many of the "racists" you accuse would gladly support a black candidate who wasn't in favor of the takeover of our private lives by the federal government.

But then that would mess up your rant, and your duct-taped reality you have managed to construct...

Much like Dr. Alan Keys a Constitutional Scholar

 

[Winman]

Much like Dr. Alan Keys a Constitutional Scholar

I voted for Alan Keyes in a primary years ago.

 

[alatide]

Many in the South did not vote for President Obama because of his politics and not his skin color. Black, white, pink, purple doesn't matter to me. If they are liberal in their politics I'm not going to vote for them no matter how many Sunday School classes they have taught, no matter how many Habitat houses they have built, and no matter how many times they have said "I am a born again Christian." Some folks just can't help but to see the majority of white Southerners wearing a white hood every Saturday night. And, the sad thing is that many southern yellow dog democrats perpetuate this stereotype. By the way Tidy, please keep it up. Your helping out tremendously.

Do you ever show any hard information or just spew out your hatred? I'd sat the latter saggy.