Translation: I can't prove my false doctrine through my "years" of "researching". Comon, man! You can do better than that! Lloyd showed you your own quoted doctrine. You can't refute that! </font>[/QUOTE]PAY ATTENTION...I didn't say I had anything to prove. We both know what they teach and I said I agree with them. I said I am not going to debate it.
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Catholic Church no longer swears by truth of the Bible
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You have no idea what you are alking about. The catholic church teaches none of this. Yes there are many false beleifs out there spread by ignorant people. Try reading the cathecism and find out the official teaching on this.Originally posted by Pickerel:
There are more ways to save within the RCC than at Wal-Mart...! Why do you think the Past Pope wore a Scapular around his neck constantly? The "virgin mary" has promised anyone dying with her scapular around their necks will be saved out of purgatory the first saturday of every month!
Canon XI. If any one saith, that men are justified, either by the sole imputation of the justice of Christ, or by the sole remission of sins, to the exclusion of the grace and the charity which is poured forth in their hearts by the Holy Ghost, and is inherent in them; or even that the grace, whereby we are justified is only the favor of God: let him be anathema.
All I know is Medals, Scapulars, Popes, Mary, Images, Sacraments, Relics, do not Save...
ONLY CHRIST SAVES!
I can't find anything the the link of the OP that remotely implies that the "Catholic Church no longer swears by truth of the Bible". The only thing that comes close is the quote that reads "We should not expect to find in Scripture full scientific accuracy or complete historical precision". That is a true statement. While scripture does contain scientific accuracy and historical precision, Scripture was not written to contain full scientific accuracy, or complete historical precision.
I would go so far to say that those who insist that scripture contains full scientific accuracy and/or completele historical precision are unfortunately perverting scripture.
I would go so far to say that those who insist that scripture contains full scientific accuracy and/or completele historical precision are unfortunately perverting scripture.
You might as well give it up. I'm in no way attempting to "defend" the RCC, but I have in the past posted quotes from Catholic priests that say explicitly that Salvation comes from faith in Christ alone. A person who chooses to dismiss this will do so regardless of what is posted.
"The CC teaches salvation by faith and then a lifetime of service to God, which includes good works as a result of our salvation. They teach that God gives us the grace to do charitable works. ""-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Encyclopedia Britanica also says this is the Catholic Churche's stance on salvation. What some independant priest believe in opposisition to the official stance of their church does not matter much except in their limitid influance.
Encyclopedia Britanica also says this is the Catholic Churche's stance on salvation. What some independant priest believe in opposisition to the official stance of their church does not matter much except in their limitid influance.
This is the whole issue. The Bible presents justification by faith alone! Catholicism presents justification by faith followed by good works.
While the overlap is visible, they are nutually exclusive because of the word "alone."
If you ignore the word alone, then you can find lots of agreement. Faith, sanctification, good works, eschatology, etc. When you add the word alone, there is no mutuality.
Lloyd </font>[/QUOTE]I dare you find one doctrine within the Catholic Church that is Christian(without having added tradition to it)!? I am sorry to say but there is NO agreement with Rome...
Only Christ Saves
You might as well give it up. I'm in no way attempting to "defend" the RCC, but I have in the past posted quotes from Catholic priests that say explicitly that Salvation comes from faith in Christ alone. A person who chooses to dismiss this will do so regardless of what is posted. </font>[/QUOTE]Sorry Johnv, but I have to say BALONEY...!
THE DAILY ROSARY FOR PEACE:
“Pray the Rosary every day in honor of Our Lady of the Rosary to obtain peace in the world . . . for she alone can save it .” (Our Lady—July 13, 1917)
DEVOTION TO THE IMMACULATE HEART OF MARY:
"Jesus wishes to establish devotion to my Immaculate Heart in the world. I promise salvation to those who embrace it." (June 13, 1917)
Your priest that you mentioned obviously knows very little about what his church teaches...either that or he is "Fibbing"??
Only Christ Saves!
The Trinity
The Deity of Christ
The Virgin Birth
Oh wait, that's three. </font>[/QUOTE]The holy foursome...you mean?
The Deity of Christ...which one?
The Virgin Birth...and the perpetual virginity, and the immaculate conception, and the assumption, and the Saving power of mary??
Oh wait, that's way more than three!
Only Christ Saves!
He's one of my best friend from high school, we got saved at the same time. He has Master's in Divinity, Doctor of Theology, and Doctorate of Canon Law. I trust him in these matters. </font>[/QUOTE]I can tell you something John...he is terribly mistaken...! I'll quote you official Catholic sources proving your priest in "error"! Don't be to trusting of anyone without checking things out yourself for sure!!
Only Christ Saves!
I disagree with the RCC's teachings on Mary. However, they don't teach that Mary is part of the Godhead. They teach the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as the Trinity. This is a scriptural doctrine.
??? The RCC teaches that Christ is God the Son. This is a scriptural doctrine.
The Virgin Birth...and the perpetual virginity, and the immaculate conception, and the assumption, and the Saving power of mary??
Again, I disagree with the RCC teachings on Mary, but the fact remains that they teach the Virgin Birth of Christ. This is a scriptural doctrine.
You asked for a single RCC teaching that was in line with scriptural doctrine. I gave you three. It's clear you choose not to have an adult conversation here.
I will choose to believe an educated, trusted, and born again friend of mine over the words of a stanger.
That's amusing that you're accusing me of being non-objective. I suggest you look in the mirror, pal. You will bend over backwards to refuse to acknowlege that the RCC teaches three Scriptural doctrines. I'm not in any way defending the nonscriptural doctrunes they teach. You asked for a scriptural doctrine, I gave you three. You scoff at them, and me, then then have then nerve to call me nonobjective. That's quite the laugh.
I really don't have time for people who are not interested in "knowing the truth"... However here's the link...
Fatima
Do you want more sources? How about pictures? Not that it would make any difference I suspect... but hey, I'm just a lowly born again Christian who was a catholic for 45yrs (my whole family is also catholic both sides)...Better put your blinders on and stop up your ears cause the truth only finds a home to those who are willing to accept it!!
Only Christ Saves!
Fatima
Do you want more sources? How about pictures? Not that it would make any difference I suspect... but hey, I'm just a lowly born again Christian who was a catholic for 45yrs (my whole family is also catholic both sides)...Better put your blinders on and stop up your ears cause the truth only finds a home to those who are willing to accept it!!
Only Christ Saves!