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celebrating EASTER is an insult to Christ

natters

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Originally posted by padredurand:
Many scholars? Liberals? Unbelievers? Liberal and conservative groups? Related to the "unnamed sources" oft mentioned in the National Enquirer, perhaps?
Exactly. Askjo has a habit of making claims without providing any verification information. "Somebody somewhere once said something" is generally all the "proof" he can come up with.

Six pages into this topic and the only thing resolved is when y'all have painted yourselves into a corner you just yell Easter Day is the celebration of Pagan god Ishtar, Goddess and Mother of God ! until the paint dries.
Eliyahu is simply adding the "Mother of God" phrase to try to provoke me, because of past discussion on the subject in which we strongly disagreed with each other.

So, I've asked this before and it was ignored. Let's see if we can get an answer this time. The KJV translators used the word Easter. It's a fact, I've seen it in print myself. Either the word is benign or the KJ translators are perpetuating the celebration of the pagan god Ishtar.

So, are they in error or is the term Easter meaningless?
I too am waiting for them to answer that.
 

natters

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Originally posted by Askjo:
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False dilemma. You don't know of any believing conservative scholars that recognize Easter is a Christian holiday? Come on. And buy a dictionary.
Well, a liberal scholar said, "I am a conservative."
</font>[/QUOTE]I do not understand your point.

I have many books -- dictionaries, Bible references, Bible commentaries, and others. I found "Easter" in my books.
I still do not understand your point. If you have many books, no doubt you have come across some conservative believers that use "Easter" to refer to the Christian holiday of the resurrection of Christ.
 

Jim1999

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OK, you want a conservative Christian scholar..Try F.F. Bruce on Easter:

The name Easter is of pagan origin, being derived from the name of a Germanic spring-goddess. But it is certainly not of her that we think nowadays at Eastertide. In most European languages the word for Easter is derived from Pascha (passover) and "Easter" itself is used in the sense of passover in the A.V. of Acts 12:4. A festival is pagan if it is celebrated in a pagan way; it is Christian if it is celebrated in a Christian way.............."

F.F. Bruce, Answers to Questions, p 194

Here endeth the debate. God be praised!

Cheers,

Jim
 

padredurand

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Doth Jim1999 on the eve of Epiphany Vespers delivereth an answer? Awww, now I'll have to go work on my Pet ID implant and Social Security number barcodes as the next step in the mark of the beast theory.
 

wopik

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Debbie in Philly

As I remember, Jesus arose EARLY in the morning on the FIRST DAY of the week.
Hi Debbie -- the preachers say that, not the Bible.

the Bible writers don't say when Jesus rose from the dead. There were no 'eye witnesses' to the resurrection.


People started seeing Jesus alive on Sunday.


Jesus did not rise "early sunday morning" any more than He was born on Dec. 25.


If you die, like Jesus did, late afternoon, 3 days and 3 nights later (72 hrs.) you will awake from your death at the same time of day --- in this case 'late afternoon'.
 

wopik

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Debbie in Pilly

Redeem the Day!
Hi Debbie --- If you mean EASTER (ISHTAR - pronounced just like EASTER, silent 'H'), the day is UN-REDEEMABLE.


The LORD told His people not to re-use heathen customs for His worship (Deut. 12:30-31) ---


"Do not inquire about their gods, asking, 'How did these nations worship their gods? I'll also do the same.'


You must not do the same to the Lord your God, because they practice for their gods every detestable thing the Lord hates......"


The LORD hates EASTER -- PAGAN EASTER.


The LORD has His own annual Holy Days, the 'holidays of the Bible', they are all about Christ.

http://www.borntowin.net/biblestudy.aspx


http://www.christianpreaching.com/rondart/dartdays.htm
 

Chemnitz

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Stop being childish!!!

Cheers,

Jim
But Jim, being childish is so much easier.
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Easter Day means Satan's Day, Anathema!
Again, somebody who actually went to a Christian church on Easter would not be saying such hideous lies about the Christian celebration.
 

Eliyahu

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One more reasoning for Acts 12:3-4 in addition to the followings which were posted before is that After the Crucifixion of Jesus and His
Resurrection, the fever and passion for the feast of Passover has diminished, because Jesus Himself has become our Passover:


Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us (1 Cor 5:7)

WHY PASCA is mentioned as TAKING PLACE AFTER UNLEAVENED BREAD DAYS?
Acts 12:3 Then were the days of Unleavened Bread.

Acts 12:4 Intending after Pasca (Passover) to bring him forth to the people.

Acts 12:6 When Herod would have brought him forth, the same night Peter was sleeping.
( Is this after Passover but during Days of Unleavened Bread?)

Acts 12:17 Peter departed to other place.(after Passover but during Days of Unleavened Bread?)

Acts 12: 20 Herod commanded that they should be put to death. (Execution during Days of Unleavened Bread?)

My study shows (as you could see in the sites which I mentioned) that:
1 ) Ishtar took place 1 day after Pesach, Pesach 14th of Abib month, Ishtar 15th of the same month. Ishtar lasted 8 days as well. .

2) Ishtar was much more popular throughout the Middle East world, while Pesach was celebrated by religious people of Israel.
3) Kings believed that Ishtar had the authority to appoint the kings and to dismiss them, and therefore Herod would have paid very much attention to it.

4) Even King Solomon worshipped Ishtar and didn't care about the Passover, but King Herod was more faithful with Passover? (1 Kings 11:5)


5) Days of Unleavened Bread had the focus on the first day, Passover, then I believe that Ishtar had the focus on the Sunday(Sunrise) and on the final day, as a finale, with a lot of Orgies

6) Both Pesach and Ishtar festival were called Pascha in Aramaic and I can imagine nobody would have called it as Ishtar because it was holy to them.
7) Then it was re-translated as PASXA in Greek.


Peopl can see on this board how much some people who call themselves as Christians are eager to worship Easter the pagan goddess, while confessing the faith in Jesus with lips .
 

padredurand

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Peopl can see on this board how much some people who call themselves as Christians are eager to worship Easter the pagan goddess, while confessing the faith in Jesus with lips .
Eliyahu, I have been called many things over the years but this is a first for being called a pagan goddess worshipper and a lipservice Christian. You're marching in a one (possibly two) man parade and nobody showed up to watch. Now you are down to namecalling, bold type, and repeating posts. Retire the field. You have nothing to say, no convincing facts and you won't respond to questions.

So, I've asked this before and it was ignored. Let's see if we can get an answer this time. The KJV translators used the word Easter. It's a fact, I've seen it in print myself. Either the word is benign or the KJ translators are perpetuating the celebration of the pagan god Ishtar.

So, are they in error or is the term Easter meaningless?


Try answering the question this time unless, of course, you prefer not to communicate with goddess worshippers and lipservice Christians....
 

Askjo

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Originally posted by padredurand:
Many scholars? Liberals? Unbelievers? Liberal and conservative groups? Related to the "unnamed sources" oft mentioned in the National Enquirer, perhaps?
Many religious books have "Easter" --- that I read. They disagree each other concerning the Easter. That is why I gave you "UNNAMED" sources.
 

padredurand

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But Askjo, the Bible uses the word Easter. Forget the Greek and the convoluted explanations elsewhere and look at the raw, unadulterated fact that the KJ Bible and its 10 reprints all use the word EASTER! Either the word is benign or it promotes pagan goddess worship. Which is it?
 
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