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celebrating EASTER is an insult to Christ
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The names of dates per week have Moon, Sun, Mars, Saturn, Venus like that and French is clearer in that aspect.
Even in Greek words, there are many words polluted with pagan words which are used for pagan worship as well. Therefore people say that Hebrew words are the language least contaminated with pagan religion.
In Hebrew, you can notice that dates are called simply 1 day, 2day, 3rd day as we see in John 2:1.
We can have a name of street in Toronto as Ottawa street, or you can have a Gloucester street in Dallas too. That is not to be pagan.
I don't think naming dates Sunday, Monday after the names of stars or planets is a pagan. Even though pagan worship had not existed before we can still name the dates like that in order to distinguish dates each other.
But in case of Easter, there are many problems, because, celebrating any special dates were abolished since the Crucifixion and Paul warned about this in Galatian 4:4-5.
Moreover, Celebrating Easter Sunday was the day for Ishtar's Festival as I mentioned before.
Then the more problem is that the name of the Day is called Easter which is apparently from Ishtar, Assyrian name of Goddess Asherah.
In such case can we call Semiramis Day?
Natters, you may be the expert in Mother of God since you call Mary as Mother of God all the time.
You can find this Ishtar being called Mother of God too!
So, my word was that if people really celebrate the Day of Resurrection indeed, they should call it as Day of Resurrection. Do you think it is wrong?
Even in Greek words, there are many words polluted with pagan words which are used for pagan worship as well. Therefore people say that Hebrew words are the language least contaminated with pagan religion.
In Hebrew, you can notice that dates are called simply 1 day, 2day, 3rd day as we see in John 2:1.
We can have a name of street in Toronto as Ottawa street, or you can have a Gloucester street in Dallas too. That is not to be pagan.
I don't think naming dates Sunday, Monday after the names of stars or planets is a pagan. Even though pagan worship had not existed before we can still name the dates like that in order to distinguish dates each other.
But in case of Easter, there are many problems, because, celebrating any special dates were abolished since the Crucifixion and Paul warned about this in Galatian 4:4-5.
Moreover, Celebrating Easter Sunday was the day for Ishtar's Festival as I mentioned before.
Then the more problem is that the name of the Day is called Easter which is apparently from Ishtar, Assyrian name of Goddess Asherah.
In such case can we call Semiramis Day?
Natters, you may be the expert in Mother of God since you call Mary as Mother of God all the time.
You can find this Ishtar being called Mother of God too!
So, my word was that if people really celebrate the Day of Resurrection indeed, they should call it as Day of Resurrection. Do you think it is wrong?
Paul of Eugene
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(sniff) my sainted mother used to insist that every Easter Sunday we all dress up in brand new clothes - underwear shoes and all - and go to church looking our very best on Easter Sunday, to honor our Lord.
You're not just insulting my Lord, you're insulting my sainted mother.
She still teaches a Sunday School class. Watch out, or she'll use you as an example of the pharasee mind set in action to her whole class, and so will I!
You're not just insulting my Lord, you're insulting my sainted mother.
She still teaches a Sunday School class. Watch out, or she'll use you as an example of the pharasee mind set in action to her whole class, and so will I!
I told you that you may call the Day the Day of Resurrection, but you refuse calling it as Resurrection Day, instead you want to stick to calling it as Easter Day (English version of Ishtar Day). Therefore it proves that your heart is actually worshipping Ishtar, while your mouth confess Jesus .
Ezekiel 8: 12
Then said he unto me, Son of man, hast thou seen what the ancients of the house of Israel do in the dark, every man in the chambers of his imagery? for they say, The LORD seeth us not; the LORD hath forsaken the earth .
Ezekiel 8:8
Then said he unto me, Son of man, dig now in the wall: and when I had digged in the wall, behold a door .9 And he said unto me, Go in, and behold the wicked abominations that they do here
Ezekile 8:14-16
14 Then he brought me to the door of the gate of the LORD'S house which was toward the north; and, behold, there sat women weeping for Tammuz. 15 Then said he unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations than these. 16 And he brought me into the inner court of the LORD'S house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the LORD, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of the LORD, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east.
Ezekiel 8:18 .
Therefore will I also deal in fury: mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity: and though they cry in mine ears with a loud voice, yet will I not hear them.
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Dig out a hole in the wall of your Heart, look into your heart, then you will see that you yourself is worshipping Ishtar, while your mouth is confessing Jesus. You are worshipping Ishtar, heading toward East, Sunrise. That's why you want to stick to EASTER .
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James 2:19
Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble .
Ezekiel 8: 12
Then said he unto me, Son of man, hast thou seen what the ancients of the house of Israel do in the dark, every man in the chambers of his imagery? for they say, The LORD seeth us not; the LORD hath forsaken the earth .
Ezekiel 8:8
Then said he unto me, Son of man, dig now in the wall: and when I had digged in the wall, behold a door .9 And he said unto me, Go in, and behold the wicked abominations that they do here
Ezekile 8:14-16
14 Then he brought me to the door of the gate of the LORD'S house which was toward the north; and, behold, there sat women weeping for Tammuz. 15 Then said he unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations than these. 16 And he brought me into the inner court of the LORD'S house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the LORD, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of the LORD, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east.
Ezekiel 8:18 .
Therefore will I also deal in fury: mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity: and though they cry in mine ears with a loud voice, yet will I not hear them.
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Dig out a hole in the wall of your Heart, look into your heart, then you will see that you yourself is worshipping Ishtar, while your mouth is confessing Jesus. You are worshipping Ishtar, heading toward East, Sunrise. That's why you want to stick to EASTER .
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James 2:19
Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble .
You may be a Dutch and speak German. I speak German too.
Ost means East. Satan planted Goddess worship everywhere, even though the titles may vary slightly depending on the regions.
In UK, it was Diana, even though it is oriented to Goddess of Hunting.
Ostara seems to be Goddess of Norse.
Artemis (Ephesus), Venus (Rome), Aphrodite (Greece), Isis(Egypt), Ishtar(Assyria, Chaldaea), Astoreth(Lebanon), Asherah (Israel), Sing Mu(China), are more or less the same as Ishtar, Queen of Heaven, Mother of God, Goddess of Love and War, Goddes of Underworld.
[ January 06, 2006, 08:33 AM: Message edited by: Eliyahu ]
Eliyahu - Consider what we know to be factual from these verses
Esther 9:26-27 KJV
(26) Wherefore they called these days Purim after the name of Pur. Therefore for all the words of this letter, and of that which they had seen concerning this matter, and which had come unto them,
(27) The Jews ordained, and took upon them, and upon their seed, and upon all such as joined themselves unto them, so as it should not fail, that they would keep these two days according to their writing, and according to their appointed time every year;
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Comments?
Esther 9:26-27 KJV
(26) Wherefore they called these days Purim after the name of Pur. Therefore for all the words of this letter, and of that which they had seen concerning this matter, and which had come unto them,
(27) The Jews ordained, and took upon them, and upon their seed, and upon all such as joined themselves unto them, so as it should not fail, that they would keep these two days according to their writing, and according to their appointed time every year;
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- A holiday was established and named for a gaming device.</font>
- The holiday was established by the Jews.</font>
- They established it on their own without clear direction nor commandment of God.</font>
- They placed the responsibility of holding to the festival to all generations.</font>
- They placed an additional responsibility on people who align themselves with the Jews.</font>
- They required that the holiday be observed without fail.</font>
- The holiday would be two days, not just one.</font>
- There would be an appointed time each year.</font>
- AND GOD DID NOT SAY ANYTHING TO STOP THEM NOR PROHIBIT THE CELEBRATION OF PURIM!</font>
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To some the use of dice (pur) is a form of divination. In that respect I would say the name implies something prohibited and very pagan. After all, didn't the Roman soldiers "cast lots" for Jesus clothing? That said, seeing the Jews took it upon themselves to begin this holiday, why didn't God say something? If its observance is not commanded anywhere in the Law how could it be considered anything less than sin.
I guess I'm still a bit confused about your stance. Is the problem celebrating the Resurrection or does it lie in the use of a name of pagan origin?
Diana was a Roman import goddess in what is now the UK and not linked to te name Easter.
Diana/Artemis and Aphrodite/Venus are 2 fully seperate goddess's who sometimes oppose eachother in Greek myth.
This whole all female pagan gods are one and the same was made up by Alexander Hislop in the 19th century.
Diana/Artemis and Aphrodite/Venus are 2 fully seperate goddess's who sometimes oppose eachother in Greek myth.
This whole all female pagan gods are one and the same was made up by Alexander Hislop in the 19th century.
I guess I'm still a bit confused about your stance. Is the problem celebrating the Resurrection or does it lie in the use of a name of pagan origin? </font>[/QUOTE]Jews name Purim because it was designated against Jews. It means that Jews don't like that, but don't want to forget about it. Because the word Pur came from Haman. It was not Israelites that intended to thraw Pur, but it was Haman, Agagite. Jews didn't throw the lots.
It is the name of Day, in order not to forget the crisis.
There is a clear explanation in the Bible about why they named the feast as Purim. Do you find the origin of Easter in the Bible?
To me, Day of Resurrection doesn't mean anything special because I enjoy it everyday throughout the year. However, if anyone wants to commemorate it, then it should be named Day of Resurrection, instead Easter Day, which means Ishtar Day as Ishtar is a subdivision of Satan.
In case of Resurrection Day, it can apply to Romans 14:5-6.
In reality there are some countries where Christians call it Resurrection Day and the most of them have not heared about Easter Day.
So your concern is with the name Easter and not what it symbolizes? To what extent should that conviction apply? Should I refrain from driving my Ford Taurus on church business because it is named after an astrological sign or, perhaps, remove the tags and refer to it as my Ford Sedan.
The car will still be there for my use but I won't have to contend with promoting astrology by driving it.
And when hee had apprehended him, hee put him in prison, and deliuered him to foure quaternions of souldiers to keepe him, intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people. (Acts 12:4 KJV-1611)
Who am I to tell the translators they are in sin?
The car will still be there for my use but I won't have to contend with promoting astrology by driving it.
Umm... Yes! Apparently the KJV translators weren't as put off by the word as you are...
And when hee had apprehended him, hee put him in prison, and deliuered him to foure quaternions of souldiers to keepe him, intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people. (Acts 12:4 KJV-1611)
Who am I to tell the translators they are in sin?
Epiphany Vespers in order for this evening, Jim? We will wait until Sunday for ours!
Hmm.. should I be careful about mentioning magi?
Hmm.. should I be careful about mentioning magi?