CF Does Not Like Truth That Disagrees With Them!

[JohnDeereFan]

Michael Servetus - Wikipedia

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You specifically said "murder". Servetus was not murdered.

 

[JohnDeereFan]

can you not accept the fact, that John Calvin agreed to this murder? This is history!

First, it was not a murder.

Second, Calvin didn't sentence Servetus to death.

 

[ajayforchrist777]

Do you think that if John Calvin disagrees, the Catholic Church will listen to him. If empire and pope impose any law, how powerful it is. A nothing is Catholic Church believes that killing heretics as doing God's service.
It seems like you know nothing about John Calvin or the history of protestants. Don't ask me to show them in Bible.

This people don't even cared for life for the Testimony of Jesus Christ and to the WORD of GOD.

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[Pastor_Bob]

I agree, but many a time the truth can hurt very hard, as when Jesus spoke with the Jews.

A surgeon's scalpel hurts as well, but we know that he is trying to help us and not hurt us. Jesus indeed gave the Jews hard sayings (John 6:60) but He was never hateful. There is a big difference.

 

[Iconoclast]

I do not wish to continue with a so-called "christian" forum, where the Truth of the Holy Bible is suppressed by those who do like things that are said that disagrees with their "pet theologies". Interestingly there are some like TCassidy, who can be rude and arrogant with others, and nothing gets done! It is no wonder that the Church of Jesus Christ is in a mess, because people take pleasure in promoting LIES, like elements of Calvinistic/Reformed teachings, which are AGAINST the Holy Bible! I have asked for my posts to be removed and my account closed.

You have failed to make a biblical case.
Man up and present what you believe is truth.
Do not be shocked when people disagree....expect it.
Time and the devil will tell if you have truth or error in your posts.

 

[JohnDeereFan]

You have failed to make a biblical case.
Man up and present what you believe is truth.
Do not be shocked when people disagree....expect it.
Time and the devil will tell if you have truth or error in your posts.

His whole gig seems to be, "If I call Calvinists enough names and throw enough straw man arguments at them, I'll look like I know better than them".

Unfortunately, he just comes off as a fool.

 

[Iconoclast]

His whole gig seems to be, "If I call Calvinists enough names and throw enough straw man arguments at them, I'll look like I know better than them".

Unfortunately, he just comes off as a fool.

Sometimes people are in churches that teach against the truth.
So they are eager to make sure calvinists know that jn 3:16, and their other 5 verses are in the bible.....once the Cals answer they are back on their heels...so they play the calvin burning servetus card.....some might bring up Leighton Flowers....lets blame God for mans sin card...lol...no wonder they are confused

 

[Saved-By-Grace]

First, it was not a murder.

Second, Calvin didn't sentence Servetus to death.

Murder is the unlawful taking of another life. Calvin did not "sentence" Servetus to death, but surely voted for i. He could have abstained. Stop trying to defend the undefendable here!

 

[JohnDeereFan]

Sometimes people are in churches that teach against the truth.
So they are eager to make sure calvinists know that jn 3:16, and their other 5 verses are in the bible.....once the Cals answer they are back on their heels...so they play the calvin burning servetus card.....some might bring up Leighton Flowers....lets blame God for mans sin card...lol...no wonder they are confused

Sounds like me when I was in the Word of Faith cult. The only difference is that I didn't call people names.

 

[Saved-By-Grace]

Do you think that if John Calvin disagrees, the Catholic Church will listen to him. If empire and pope impose any law, how powerful it is. A nothing is Catholic Church believes that killing heretics as doing God's service.
It seems like you know nothing about John Calvin or the history of protestants. Don't ask me to show them in Bible.

This people don't even cared for life for the Testimony of Jesus Christ and to the WORD of GOD.

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More excuses for the man! Wow, what lengths some will go to, to defend their "hero", even when he has done very wrong.

 

[Saved-By-Grace]

Sounds like me when I was in the Word of Faith cult. The only difference is that I didn't call people names.

I use the KJV, NKJV, ESV, NLT, NIV, Weymouth, 6 NT Greek Versions, the LXX in 4 editions!

 

[JohnDeereFan]

Murder is the unlawful taking of another life.

Then, by your own definition, it was not murder, as it was not unlawful.

 

[JohnDeereFan]

I use the KJV, NKJV, ESV, NLT, NIV, Weymouth, 6 NT Greek Versions, the LXX in 4 editions!

How nice for you. It isn't your translation. It's how you speak to people.

 

[tyndale1946]

I do not wish to continue with a so-called "christian" forum, where the Truth of the Holy Bible is suppressed by those who do like things that are said that disagrees with their "pet theologies". Interestingly there are some like TCassidy, who can be rude and arrogant with others, and nothing gets done! It is no wonder that the Church of Jesus Christ is in a mess, because people take pleasure in promoting LIES, like elements of Calvinistic/Reformed teachings, which are AGAINST the Holy Bible! I have asked for my posts to be removed and my account closed.

Well we are sorry to see you go... But let me tell you a story that happened to me... I had a neighbor who was a Jewish man and him and I got into a conversation one day... How this topic came up I don't recall but it centered around how does a Jewish believer find a Rabbi?... He told me a young Jewish man will be reading the Torah and have a thought and he will search out a Rabbi that believes the way he does... So I asked him well what if he is reading and has another thought, the Rabbi he found disagrees with?... Well he said he just goes and finds another Rabbi?... This is a Baptist Theology and Bible Study Forum so I know no Rabbi is going to come on here and say here agrees with what my Jewish friend told me... The moral of the story is this not everyone on here is going to agree with what everyone says, even those is your own camp there will be disagreements... No one is holding you here you are free to go but the sheep in the other pasture eat the same grass... You just think they don't?... Go find a Rabbi that agrees with you!... Brother Glen

Another one bites the dust!

 

[Saved-By-Grace]

You can reply to me....however I will answer you quite directly so before you make your case...be ready to have to defend your Ideas biblically

always try to

 

[Saved-By-Grace]

Well we are sorry to see you go... But let me tell you a story that happened to me... I had a neighbor who was a Jewish man and him and I got into a conversation one day... How this topic came up I don't recall but it centered around how does a Jewish believer find a Rabbi?... He told me a young Jewish man will be reading the Torah and have a thought and he will search out a Rabbi that believes the way he does... So I asked him well what if he is reading and has another thought, the Rabbi he found disagrees with?... Well he said he just goes and finds another Rabbi?... This is a Baptist Theology and Bible Study Forum so I know no Rabbi is going to come on here and say here agrees with what my Jewish friend told me... The moral of the story is this not everyone on here is going to agree with what everyone says, even those is your own camp there will be disagreements... No one is holding you here you are free to go but the sheep in the other pasture eat the same grass... You just think they don't?... Go find a Rabbi that agrees with you!... Brother Glen

Another one bites the dust!

thanks. I am not quitting because I can't take the heat, but because I had about 5 important posts deleted because someone was "offended" by me having an opposite view! This is very unchristian and childish, especially I was never told what was wrong with my posts?

 

[Saved-By-Grace]

How nice for you. It isn't your translation. It's how you speak to people.

you mean having a confidence, being forthright and honest, though tough with the truth in hand? little kids who don't want to scrape their knees, should not play with the adults!

 

[Saved-By-Grace]

Then, by your own definition, it was not murder, as it was not unlawful.

You know the truth, but find it hard to admit because of Calvin.

 

[Saved-By-Grace]

Well, good to know you're honest about your pride issue.



First of all, I've read your posts. Many of them are offensive, not because you tell people they're wrong, but because of the way you tell people they're wrong. You seem to be under the impression that being rude is somehow a good substitute for a reasoned argument.

A typical conversation with you goes like this:

You: You Calvinists preach a false gospel!

Calvinist: Well, it says here in Romans 9...

You: Oh, you don't know what you're talking about!

If you're trying to persuade people to your side, that's a terrible way to do it.

If you're trying to bully people to your side, then you're barking up the wrong tree.

We have no problem allowing for the possibility we could be wrong. In fact, unlike you, who brags about the fact that you're not open to correction, we want to know if we're in error and, if we are, we welcome correction.

But just calling us names and insulting everybody who disagrees with you isn't correction. It's not iron sharpening iron. It's just being a jerk.



Maybe. The mods here do a lot of stupid things. But that's beside the point. Jesus was stern with the Jews, but never expressed Himself sinfully. Never did what you're doing.

I have asked more than once for anyone to show where in Romans 9 "election to salvation", not "service or works", is even mentioned, and no one has done so. All you guys say is, Romans 9! I argue tough because I don't like to pussy-foot around with the truth of the Bible. Honest is better than anything else, and it can hurt, sometimes, very hard.

 

[Yeshua1]

I do not wish to continue with a so-called "christian" forum, where the Truth of the Holy Bible is suppressed by those who do like things that are said that disagrees with their "pet theologies". Interestingly there are some like TCassidy, who can be rude and arrogant with others, and nothing gets done! It is no wonder that the Church of Jesus Christ is in a mess, because people take pleasure in promoting LIES, like elements of Calvinistic/Reformed teachings, which are AGAINST the Holy Bible! I have asked for my posts to be removed and my account closed.

Actually, this board is very charitable towards differing positions, heck, we even allo those such as holding to both RC and SDA theology post here, and that is FAR worse than reformed/calvinist theology!