Children Serving, Labouring, Working, Witnessing, etc. for the Lord

[webdog]

Did Jesus evangelize by holding up huge signs? Why didn't Jesus begin His ministry at age 3?

 

[Bro. Williams]

This is why I said I don't fully know about your ministry...
I can only judge by the pictures...

Correction, by the picture.

Maybe you can reconsider using those pictures to accurately reflect your ministry...

HAve you even looked at the site? There are countless pictures of adults preaching as well. I typically don't photograph one on one witnessing for I figured it violated something somewhere in regards to taking photos of complete strangers. I will take some photos of one on one witnessing though, if you like.

I thank God He is using you to reach others...

Thank you, I do as well.

 

[Bro. Williams]

Did Jesus evangelize by holding up huge signs? Why didn't Jesus begin His ministry at age 3?

What an silly argument. Why did he wait until 33? Does every individual have to wait until they are 33.5 to preach and begin ministering. Surely you did not think this reply out. Just the usual pointless rudeness you display towards me and mine.

 

[Rufus_1611]

Did Jesus evangelize by holding up huge signs?

What motivation would Jesus Christ have to hold up signs when He was busy doing them?

"And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book:" - John 20:30​

Since most of us can't perform miracles, what is so awful about holding up a sign with scripture on it Christian?

"So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." - Romans 10:17​

Why didn't Jesus begin His ministry at age 3?

 

[Rufus_1611]

Touche' See I'm not perfect no matter what I tell you!!!!:laugh: :tonofbricks:

Nor am I...thank you for your meek response.

 

[webdog]

What an silly argument. Why did he wait until 33? Does every individual have to wait until they are 33.5 to preach and begin ministering. Surely you did not think this reply out. Just the usual pointless rudeness you display towards me and mine.

First, my questions weren't directed toward anyone.
Second, you alone are erecting the strawman by asking why doesn't every individual wait until they are 33.5. I never asked that or said that.
Third, funny you didn't say anything about the ridiculous posters.
Fourth, for someone who feels they need to correct others' grammar and spelling, it's "a" silly argument, not "an".

 

[webdog]

Since most of us can't perform miracles, what is so awful about holding up a sign with scripture on it Christian?

"So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." - Romans 10:17​

Because that's not what God intended for us to spread the Gopel. We are commanded to go and make disciples (learners) of the Gospel. We aren't supposed throw little suits on our toddlers, put them on street corners barking at them and shoving Scripture down there throats with posters. Try building a relationship with the person...like Christ did.

 

[Bro. Williams]

The "an" was there for when I originally had said "ignorant" post, which I decided was farther than I wanted to go.

If it was trully not posted towards me, my apologies for taking it that way.

Since you brought up when Jesus wasn't ministering, the obvious counter was when he did begin his ministry.

If you argument wasn't along those lines, okay.

 

[ShotGunWillie]

Because that's not what God intended for us to spread the Gopel. We are commanded to go and make disciples (learneres) of the Gospel. We aren't supposed to stand on street corners barking at them and shoving Scripture down there throats. Try building a relationship with the person...like Christ did.

Where were the apostles to search and spread the Gospel, the local church?? They went out into the streets proclaiming the good news. They went to homes, to prisons, everywhere they could.

Just because you don't do it, doesn't mean that God did not intend for it to be done that way.

I suppose God didn't really intend for men to give salvation information on websites or create videos/movies spreadiing the good news.

 

[Bro. Williams]

Because that's not what God intended for us to spread the Gopel. We are commanded to go and make disciples (learners) of the Gospel. We aren't supposed throw little suits on our toddlers, put them on street corners barking at them and shoving Scripture down there throats with posters. Try building a relationship with the person...like Christ did.

Right, Jesus had a one on one relationship with each person when he was preaching to the multitudes. He may not have had a sign, but he sure was a proponent of open air preaching. And since people are no longer walking around in multitudes by and large due to the use of the autmobile, a sign is a good way to proclaim the Gospel.

Why is that Christians have no problem with Christian tshirts, Billboards for their churches, big signs outside their churches, etc. but hate the word of God on a sign on a street corner.

 

[Lagardo]

Why is that Christians have no problem with Christian tshirts, Billboards for their churches, big signs outside their churches, etc. but hate the word of God on a sign on a street corner.

Fred Phelps has gotten way too much publicity. Most street preachers will be scrutinized heavily by most passersby. I was once told that a group was holding Phelps like signs nearby. I went down to look and, no, it wasn't the westboro group and the signs were only scripture, not the signs Phelps is famous for (about hate and killing soldiers, etc). I asked the person who had told me this where they saw the phelps-like signs and they said they just thought they were there.

People don't tend to read everything they see, they just take it in by what they've seen before. This is why companies will sue over similarities in package design. We should be aware of how we are percieved and no that what we intend to say is being heard.

For the same reason, I've never been fond of the T-shirts that look like a beer company but say "For all you do, His Blood's for you."

 

[tinytim]

Correction, by the picture.



HAve you even looked at the site? There are countless pictures of adults preaching as well. I typically don't photograph one on one witnessing for I figured it violated something somewhere in regards to taking photos of complete strangers. I will take some photos of one on one witnessing though, if you like.



Thank you, I do as well.

Yeah, I looked at the sight when you first came on BB...
I just looked at it again...
I must say, God has never impressed me to do street preaching... but if that is your forte' go for it...

BTW, which one is your picture?
Do we get to see what you look like? :wavey:


I promise not to make fun, unless you are the one wearing the dress!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

 

[tinytim]

Fred Phelps has gotten way too much publicity. Most street preachers will be scrutinized heavily by most passersby. I was once told that a group was holding Phelps like signs nearby. I went down to look and, no, it wasn't the westboro group and the signs were only scripture, not the signs Phelps is famous for (about hate and killing soldiers, etc). I asked the person who had told me this where they saw the phelps-like signs and they said they just thought they were there.

People don't tend to read everything they see, they just take it in by what they've seen before. This is why companies will sue over similarities in package design. We should be aware of how we are percieved and no that what we intend to say is being heard.

For the same reason, I've never been fond of the T-shirts that look like a beer company but say "For all you do, His Blood's for you."

I agree, that is why I don't think the picketing look is effective...
The method has been turned into a circus with the "Turn or Burn" and "The end is Near" type pictures...

Also, Christianity has been cheapened.

But HIS blood is still as good today as it was 2000 yrs ago...

 

[Rufus_1611]

Because that's not what God intended for us to spread the Gopel. We are commanded to go and make disciples (learners) of the Gospel. We aren't supposed throw little suits on our toddlers, put them on street corners barking at them and shoving Scripture down there throats with posters. Try building a relationship with the person...like Christ did.

I have nothing against building relationships, as they can be quite effective in reaching people. However, please note the following...

"And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature." - Mark 16:15
​

...the priority is not on making friends. The priority is on preaching the gospel to every creature.

As to your other comments, you are exaggerating. You have no information to confirm that someone was barking, nor information to confirm that someone shoved scripture down anyone's throats with posters. There is a billboard in that image, do you rail against the advertising company for shoving an ad down people's throats or is it rather the message the posters are conveying which you have a problem with? Finally, a toddler is defined as a child of 3 or less and a business suit consists of a jacket which none are wearing. The youngest child in that picture appears to be, as best as I can estimate using mspaint and the Bible or the hands in the image as height baselines, to be about 48" to 60" tall and would place him somewhere between 6 & 10 years old. Thus, there are no suits in the image, no toddlers in the image and certainly no suits on toddlers in the image.

 

[4boys4joys]

I will not act like I am an expert on appearances. I know that there are thousands of opinions on what "looks" Christian without being offensive, trying to look peculiar as the Bible tells us to instead of weird or militant.

Peoples views of what Children should and should not do in a public or private forum constantly change with the times. Though our gospel messages should stay the same. The way we deliver that message should stay be agressive and bathed with compassion. But we should prayerfully consider the day and time and culture that we are in presently and find a way to present the gospel that is reflective of being sensitive to the fact that people may not respond in the way we want them to.

There may be nothing wrong with what we are doing or even how we are doing it, but how does the lost person see it should be our concern . They are not thinking about it not being a violation of scripture they are thinking, if that is Christianity you can have it.

I know that some will reject the gospel regardless of the medium or environment they hear it in . But I hope that we take a look at how we present it with out compromising the gospel but with a spirit of carefulness about the overall perception to those we present it to.

Sometimes we get "so" saved we forget how we looked at Christians before we became one. I will be the first to admit this. I am not saying any one way is right or wrong or trying to imply that. Just that we should be careful.

 

[Bro. Williams]

For the same reason, I've never been fond of the T-shirts that look like a beer company but say "For all you do, His Blood's for you."

I agree with the t-shirt thing. I also think it is just a mockery to Christ that we would imitate the world's advertisements to get His message across. But, that is me, and sometimes I am just happy to see someone wearing one of these lame (yes, some of these are so lame...) shirts and trying to do something...

 

[Bro. Williams]

Yeah, I looked at the sight when you first came on BB...
I just looked at it again...
I must say, God has never impressed me to do street preaching... but if that is your forte' go for it...

BTW, which one is your picture?
Do we get to see what you look like? :wavey:


I promise not to make fun, unless you are the one wearing the dress!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Our church does believe it is our forte', but we also know our jail ministry and visitation ministries are as important. WE are not of the belief (and I do see this mistaken belief with street preachers often) that if you do not do it our way, you are wrong. There are ministries we don't have that others do, we have ministries that others cannot do that we do and vice versa. WE like to hear of people "doing".

Why don't you think I'm the one holding the camera?

 

[webdog]

I agree with the t-shirt thing. I also think it is just a mockery to Christ that we would imitate the world's advertisements to get His message across.

The world uses billboards and shock value...does it not?

 

[Bro. Williams]

I meant in the like example Lagardo gave and such, hence the reference "the world's advertisements". But it would take someone without an agenda to notice that now wouldn't it, bub? I have no problem with a Christian wearing a shirt with scripture or original message.