Brightfame52
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You teach the death of the risen Christ saved no one, thats blasphemy
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Christ the risen Saviour, not potential Saviour! 3
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Brightfame52
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Horrible Blasphemy to say Jesus Christs Death saved no one. His Resurrection proves that it did. His Death abolished Death 2 Tim 1:10
But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:
Heb 2:14
Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
Silverhair
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His death did not BF it is through faith in the risen Christ that we are saved.
Why do you not believe the bible BF?
1Co 15:17 and if Christ has not been raised, your faith is worthless; you are still in your sins.
Rom 5:10 For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life.
Being reconciled is not save BF. That is a false teaching of your calvinism.
Silverhair
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You are reading your false views into the text BF.
But I have shown you clear scripture but you will not accept it as it shows the error of your view so you you struggle to find any verse that you can twist in the vain attempt you support your error.
Brightfame52
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More blasphemy
Brightfame52
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More rejection of truth. How did Jesus' abolish death and him that had the power of death the devil ?
Heb 2 14
14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
2 Tim 1:10
10 But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:
Brightfame52
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Jesus Christ as Saviour !
Matt 1:21
21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.
Acts 5:31
31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.
In these last and evil days the Christ of scripture has been sorely misrepresented by mans religion, for they make him out to be a possible saviour, a contingent saviour, based upon the performance of a condition by man.
However thats not the Saviour Christ of the scripture revelation, far from it. The Jesus Christ of scripture is a Saviour because He shall save [not all without exception] His People from their sins, its a word of promise, therefore conditioned on God in Christ alone !
Silverhair
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BF I have no problem with those verses. I do have a problem with your understanding of how one is saved.
Silverhair
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Only in your mind BF.
Silverhair
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So if we were to go by what you have posted BF then only Jews could be saved as they are Israel.
The only way a gentile can be considered part of Israel is through faith in the risen Christ Jesus.
The bible tells us how one is saved
Rom 5:10 For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life.
Rom 10:9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;
Eph 1:13 In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation—having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise,
Rom 5:1 Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,
Rom 5:2 through whom also we have obtained our introduction by faith into this grace in which we stand; and we exult in hope of the glory of God.
Eph 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;
1Co 15:17 and if Christ has not been raised, your faith is worthless; you are still in your sins.
Do you see what Paul said BF? Faith in the Christ on the cross does not save it is worthless. It is faith in the risen Christ that is required.
Brightfame52
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Yeah you do have a problem with them, you dont believe them. Them Christ died for, death for them has been abolished, His death for them saved them from death, they can never die the 2 nd death
Brightfame52
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In Gods also ! You will see in the Day of Judgment. Hopefully God will give you repentance b4 then of that blasphemy
Brightfame52
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Has nothing to do with ethnic jews no more than with african americans, chinese, german , anglo saxons, spanish etc
Brightfame52
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Now you are basing Salvation Matt 1:21 on race. Thats a flat out denial of Grace and respect of persons. God doesn't save from sin because of ones ethnicity, you dont realize that ?
Silverhair
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Not what it says BF but I am not surprised at how you read things into the text.
Silverhair
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Only blasphemy in your mind BF.
Brightfame52
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Its what it means. Death has been abolished
Silverhair
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Read the text BF. You deny what is clearly in the text.
I know who can be saved through faith in the risen Christ but remember we are only Israel if we freely trust in the risen Christ.
Brightfame52
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Salvation isnt based upon race