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Christ the risen Saviour, not potential Saviour !

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Brightfame52

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Its just as Christ dishonoring to His Saving Death to say that His death saved no one apart from their believing, as to say His death saved no one apart from their good works of charity, or keeping the law, or water baptism.
 

Silverhair

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I dont need you to ask me. The Holy Spirit reveals the saving death of Christ Jn 16

13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

Glorifying Christ isnt shewing you that His death saved no one

Christ's death covered the sins of all men and thus made salvation possible His resurrection made salvation possible for all through faith in Him.

If Christ had not risen than as Paul said we would still be in our sins. Our sins are not forgiven by Christ still in the grave but by Christ that sits on the right hand of God in heaven.
 

Silverhair

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Its just as Christ dishonoring to His Saving Death to say that His death saved no one apart from their believing, as to say His death saved no one apart from their good works of charity, or keeping the law, or water baptism.

Faith is the stated condition that God set for our salvation BF.

You are just putting forward the man-made philosophy that you hold to as if it were scripture.

Trust the word of God BF not your false religious views.
 

Brightfame52

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Christ's death covered the sins of all men and thus made salvation possible His resurrection made salvation possible for all through faith in Him.
More blasphemy Christ resurrection gives them He died for the New Birth 1 Pet 1:3

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,


Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. Because of his great mercy he has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead CSB

You blaspheme His Death and Resurrection may God have mercy on you
 

Silverhair

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More blasphemy Christ resurrection gives them He died for the New Birth 1 Pet 1:3

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,


Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. Because of his great mercy he has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead CSB

You blaspheme His Death and Resurrection may God have mercy on you

You are off the wall BF. It is clear that you do not even know your bible.

You treating your calvinism as if it were the standard that the bible has to agree with.

You have lost your focus BF.
 

Silverhair

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False, scripture never says that

BF do you not have these verses in your bible or if you do why do you ignore them

Act 16:30 Then he brought them out and asked, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
Act 16:31 They replied, “Believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved, you and your household.”
 

Brightfame52

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You are off the wall BF. It is clear that you do not even know your bible.
You dont believe in Christ saving death nor His saving life Whats the promise here Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
 

Brightfame52

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BF do you not have these verses in your bible or if you do why do you ignore them

Act 16:30 Then he brought them out and asked, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
Act 16:31 They replied, “Believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved, you and your household.”
You think he believed that Jesus made his salvation possible or that His death didnt save anyone? Is that what Paul taught him Acts 16:32

32 And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house.

Was the word of the Lord, hey Jesus died for peoples sins but it didnt save anybody, it made it possible
 

Brightfame52

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Are you so bold that you will slander the Holy Spirit by say He is unholy? That is really foolish of you BF.
That unholy spirit you said taught you that Christ death didnt save anyone ? Thats this kinda spirit Rev 16 13

And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
 

Silverhair

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You dont believe in Christ saving death nor His saving life Whats the promise here Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

BF you just keep proving that you will say anything that pops into your mind even when you know it is a lie.

How many times have I said we are saved by the risen Christ BF?

1Co 15:17 And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins.
 

Silverhair

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You think he believed that Jesus made his salvation possible or that His death didnt save anyone? Is that what Paul taught him Acts 16:32

32 And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house.

Was the word of the Lord, hey Jesus died for peoples sins but it didnt save anybody, it made it possible

Can you actually read BF?

What was the jailers question BF? "what must I do to be saved?"

What was Paul's answer BF? "Believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved"

You are either unable to comprehend the text or you are willfully blind to it.
 
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