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Christian Democrats???

AresMan

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lets look at it in this light though...

Which of the 2 major party platforms agree best with the Moral law of god?
In my view, there is nary a dime's worth of difference between the two.

Nevertheless, where does God demonstrate in His Word that He wants His people to compromise to kingdom come and submit ceaselessly to "the lesser of two evils"? It seems to me the example is always to serve God against any perceived odds.
 

Aaron

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Nevertheless, where does God demonstrate in His Word that He wants His people to compromise to kingdom come and submit ceaselessly to "the lesser of two evils"? It seems to me the example is always to serve God against any perceived odds.
"Love your neighbor as yourself."

Where do you find you have the right to allow your neighbor to be subjugated to a greater evil than necessary when you were given a say in the process?
 

Zaac

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In my view, there is nary a dime's worth of difference between the two.

Nevertheless, where does God demonstrate in His Word that He wants His people to compromise to kingdom come and submit ceaselessly to "the lesser of two evils"? It seems to me the example is always to serve God against any perceived odds.

Well said. I understand that we love our politics. But I don't love it so much that I'm gonna vote for one anti-Christ over another anti-Christ.
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Arbo

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This is strictly my opinion.

People who say that Christian American voters should forsake allegiance to a political party and align themselves with Christ ignore the fact that, though they are citizens of Heaven, they are still citizens of a secular United States. Sometimes the most practical, realistic choice is not a matter of what's the best or the most righteous, but what is most likely to stop or slow a political trend.

The wounded needs his bleeding stopped before he can heal. I see America as wounded, her fate being the same as Europe.

I mean no offense, because I recognize everyone has their own conscience, but the argument that we ought not vote for one of the two parties who are the only serious contenders, and instead vote for third party or abstain or vote for the "Christian" candidate ( whoever that is) smells of denial of the political realities in America today coupled with a dose of self-righteousness.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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This is strictly my opinion.

People who say that Christian American voters should forsake allegiance to a political party and align themselves with Christ ignore the fact that, though they are citizens of Heaven, they are still citizens of a secular United States. Sometimes the most practical, realistic choice is not a matter of what's the best or the most righteous, but what is most likely to stop or slow a political trend.

The wounded needs his bleeding stopped before he can heal. I see America as wounded, her fate being the same as Europe.

I mean no offense, because I recognize everyone has their own conscience, but the argument that we ought not vote for one of the two parties who are the only serious contenders, and instead vote for third party or abstain or vote for the "Christian" candidate ( whoever that is) smells of denial of the political realities in America today coupled with a dose of self-righteousness.[/QUOTE]

Your correct it is & I am, so bring back Newt or I ain't voting!:tongue3:
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Well said. I understand that we love our politics. But I don't love it so much that I'm gonna vote for one anti-Christ over another anti-Christ.
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Then go into the polling booth & write in Mephistopheles (or Newt Gingrich) ....same thing LOL:laugh:

Why not.....either him or his minions! :smilewinkgrin:
 

Zaac

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This is strictly my opinion.

People who say that Christian American voters should forsake allegiance to a political party and align themselves with Christ ignore the fact that, though they are citizens of Heaven, they are still citizens of a secular United States. Sometimes the most practical, realistic choice is not a matter of what's the best or the most righteous, but what is most likely to stop or slow a political trend.

Glad you prefaced it with that it was just opinion.:laugh: But here's what I don't get. God has given the Christian a task. And God has given the Christian His Greatest Commandment. What on earth has given us this perception that WE must slow or stop a political trend by endorsing something secular that is against God?

The wounded needs his bleeding stopped before he can heal. I see America as wounded, her fate being the same as Europe.

But you apparently see it as being healed at the ballot box. Christ says that HE will heal our land if we do certain things. We're trying to be in control of the fixing which is as much of a problem, if not more, than the folks who are actually doing the evil.

I mean no offense, because I recognize everyone has their own conscience, but the argument that we ought not vote for one of the two parties who are the only serious contenders, and instead vote for third party or abstain or vote for the "Christian" candidate ( whoever that is) smells of denial of the political realities in America today coupled with a dose of self-righteousness.

And voting for "the lesser evil" while blatantly ignoring God's Greatest Commandment( and I know a lot of folks don't think they are doing this, but they are) speaks loudly to sacrificing but not obeying.

But God's word says that OBEDIENCE is better than sacrifice. So Christians are to OBEY first, and not feel as though they have to support that which is against God in a sacrifice in order to stop the bleeding.

God has said that HE will stop the bleeding. if My people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land 2 Chr. 7:14

And our inability to do things God's way but to rather try and orchestrate the "fix" ourselves speaks to the same disobedience that the Repubs in here speak about the Dems. Or shall I say the same self-righteousness that tells us WE are gonna stop the bleeding and start to heal the land.
 
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Arbo

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Glad you prefaced it with that it was just opinion.:laugh: But here's what I don't get. God has given the Christian a task. And God has given the Christian His Greatest Commandment. What on earth has given us this perception that WE must slow or stop a political trend by endorsing something secular that is against God?



But you apparently see it as being healed at the ballot box. Christ says that HE will heal our land if we do certain things. We're trying to be in control of the fixing which is as much of a problem, if not more, than the folks who are actually doing the evil.



And voting for "the lesser evil" while blatantly ignoring God's Greatest Commandment( and I know a lot of folks don't think they are doing this, but they are) speaks loudly to sacrificing but not obeying.

But God's word says that OBEDIENCE is better than sacrifice. So Christians are to OBEY first, and not feel as though they have to support that which is against God in a sacrifice in order to stop the bleeding.

God has said that HE will stop the bleeding. if My people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land 2 Chr. 7:14

And our inability to do things God's way but to rather try and orchestrate the "fix" ourselves speaks to the same disobedience that the Repubs in here speak about the Dems. Or shall I say the same self-righteousness that tells us WE are gonna stop the bleeding and start to heal the land.

In a nutshell, in one sentence, what do you suggest?
 

OldRegular

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Which of the commandments says to vote for someone who worships a false god?

I thought so you can't, or worse, won't answer. You have been screaming about God's Commandments:

Glad you prefaced it with that it was just opinion.:laugh: But here's what I don't get. God has given the Christian a task. And God has given the Christian His Greatest Commandment. What on earth has given us this perception that WE must slow or stop a political trend by endorsing something secular that is against God?

So now is your chance to enlighten all on this Board!
 

Zaac

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In a nutshell, in one sentence, what do you suggest?

I suggest what God's word commands. :Obedience is better than sacrifice.

We need to obey HIM and love Him with everything, repenting of our thinking that WE can do something to heal this land when we can't. And HE will do what He promises.

I just don't think His people are serious about letting HIM heal the land.
 

Revmitchell

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Psalm 51:15 O Lord, open my lips, and my mouth will declare your praise.
Psalm 51:16 For you will not delight in sacrifice, or I would give it; you will not be pleased with a burnt offering.
Psalm 51:17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit; a broken and contrite heart, O God, you will not despise.
 

Zaac

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I thought so you can't, or worse, won't answer. You have been screaming about God's Commandments:

This isn't a game. As I've said before, if folks feel that they have got to vote for the anti-Christ who is currently in office, do so. If you feel like you've got to vote for the anti-Christ who is currently running against the anti-Christ who is in office, do so.

But I'm gonna call it like I see it. And all I see is a bunch of Christians who are attempting to do what they think is right in their own eyes in order to heal the land, when God says that HE will heal the land.

Perhaps that is why He says if His people will HUMBLE themselves. Any time folks seem to think that they are doing God a favor and fixing things under some work of their own hand, they tend to lose sight of OBEDIENCE in lieu of the "doing what they feel needs to be done" to stop the bleeding.

And you know God's Greatest Commandment. Showing support for a man who worships a false god does not speak to“‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. Matthew 22:37



So now is your chance to enlighten all on this Board!


I'll leave the enlightening to God. Cause it's CLEAR that Repubs are making the same excuses to support this man as a candidate in spite of his ungodliness that they like to point the finger at the Dems for doing in support of their candidate of choice.

Obedience is better than sacrifice.
 
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