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Christian Flag above the American Flag?

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Revmitchell

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They why fly the flag of a human government on church property?

Ok so you believe that flying the American flag on church property indicates that the church “belongs” to a human government? Just asking for clarity
 

KenH

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Ok so you believe that flying the American flag on church property indicates that the church “belongs” to a human government? Just asking for clarity

They are honoring an earthly, human government on church property. Those who are Christians are seeking a homeland. Where we live on this earth is not it.

Hebrews 11:13-16 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off were assured of them, embraced them and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. For those who say such things declare plainly that they seek a homeland. And truly if they had called to mind that country from which they had come out, they would have had opportunity to return. But now they desire a better, that is, a heavenly country. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for He has prepared a city for them.
 

Revmitchell

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They are honoring an earthly, human government on church property. Those who are Christians are seeking a homeland. Where we live on this earth is not it.

Hebrews 11:13-16 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off were assured of them, embraced them and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. For those who say such things declare plainly that they seek a homeland. And truly if they had called to mind that country from which they had come out, they would have had opportunity to return. But now they desire a better, that is, a heavenly country. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for He has prepared a city for them.

Ok prove to me that those who fly flags in their church are seeking a homeland above the kingdom of God?

Further why is it you believe a Christian flag is wrong?
 

KenH

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Ok prove to me that those who fly flags in their church are seeking a homeland above the kingdom of God?

Why are they flying a government honoring an earthly, human government when all human governments belong to this world and Satan is the prince of this world, and when Satan tempted Christ he said he could give them to Him and Christ did not dispute that he could do so?
 

Salty

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Churches shouldn't be flying any flags. I seriously doubt that that first century churches displayed the Roman Standard. There is certainly no Biblical thing as a "Christian" flag.

I agree there is no Biblical reference to having a flag.
On the other hand - there is no Biblical reference prohibiting.
 

KenH

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I agree there is no Biblical reference to having a flag.
On the other hand - there is no Biblical reference prohibiting.

Then don't call it a "Christian" flag. Call it a Baptist Flag or some such.
 

KenH

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None however does that in and of itself create a problem for the church in your view?

Why try to tie the church to some earthly emblem? The church is the kingdom of Christ and Christ said His kingdom is not of this world; it is a spiritual kingdom. We are already in the kingdom. Christ is reigning right now. Colossians 1:13-14 He has delivered us from the power of darkness and conveyed us into the kingdom of the Son of His love, in whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins.
 

Revmitchell

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Why try to tie the church to some earthly emblem? The church is the kingdom of Christ and Christ said His kingdom is not of this world; it is a spiritual kingdom. We are already in the kingdom. Christ is reigning right now. Colossians 1:13-14 He has delivered us from the power of darkness and conveyed us into the kingdom of the Son of His love, in whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins.

Do your position is that even though it is representative of Christianity at least to most Christians not all your position is that because man made it up then it is corrupt and therefore ungodly? I’m just asking for clarity
 

KenH

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that even though it is representative of Christianity

It may be representative of a religion. It is not representative of Biblical Christianity. Just as some people call the United States a "Christian" nation. It is is not. One could say it is a religious nation. But it is certainly not a Christian nation in the Biblical sense as Christ told us that there are few Christians. If the majority of people in a country have never been Christians, then that country is not a "Christian" country.
 

Revmitchell

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It may be representative of a religion. It is not representative of Biblical Christianity. Just as some people call the United States a "Christian" nation. It is is not. One could say it is a religious nation. But it is certainly not a Christian nation in the Biblical sense as Christ told us that there are few Christians. If the majority of people in a country have never been Christians, then that country is not a "Christian" country.

Ok but I’m trying to getting an understanding of your support for your claims here. This is not real evidence can you provide clear scripture against it? Or is this just a personal choice for you?
 

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JonC

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Where is there a description of such a flag in the New Testament?
It is the flag of the Federal Council of Churches (since 1950 the National Council of Churches).

Their social creed is admirable, except it is not the mission of a church:
  • Equal rights and complete justice for all men in all stations of life
  • Protection of the worker from dangerous machinery, occupational disease, injuries, and mortality
  • Abolition of child labor
  • Regulation of the conditions of toil for women as shall safeguard the physical and moral health of the community
  • A living wage as a minimum in every industry
  • Provision for the old age of the workers and for those incapacitated by injury
  • Abatement of poverty

The church should address social issues, IMHO, by discipline people, sharing the gospel.
 

Bible Thumpin n Gun Totin

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It's not tied to that
It is the flag of the Federal Council of Churches (since 1950 the National Council of Churches).

Their social creed is admirable, except it is not the mission of a church:
  • Equal rights and complete justice for all men in all stations of life
  • Protection of the worker from dangerous machinery, occupational disease, injuries, and mortality
  • Abolition of child labor
  • Regulation of the conditions of toil for women as shall safeguard the physical and moral health of the community
  • A living wage as a minimum in every industry
  • Provision for the old age of the workers and for those incapacitated by injury
  • Abatement of poverty

The church should address social issues, IMHO, by discipline people, sharing the gospel.

It's not tied to that particular group. The flag is not owned, trademarked or copyrighted. That particular group only adopted it as their flag.

In the Churches I've been to it is used as a symbol of general Christianity and as a symbol that unites different denominations.

Some Churches even have a pledge that they use on it. I can't recall the exact words, I never learned it.
 
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