*Christian* Hard Rock Experiment

[MissAbbyIFBaptist]

Well after reading all four pages of this {and I'll bet it be 3 times longer before the thread is closed!

} I have to agree with Gina on many accounts. Yeap, those guys do look plain scary! yuck! {Oh BTW love the picture of the guy with his tounge out. Great Christian testimony. } That sign on the drums does look like 3 sixes comdined. Even if it dosn't mean anything bad, the Bible says to adstain from the apearance of evil.
Though I refuse to subject any child to rock or so called CCM stuff, I believe ya'll when ya'll say they bop their heads around, and I know the only experiance I've had when around CCM, rock any of it was cringing and thinking of running in the other direction. I don't care what you say, it's worldly and being of the world isn't right. It's not agreeing with the Bible which comands us to abstain from the world.
Oh and someone made the statement about that symbol thing being in the NKJV, and that that "version" was the version for English speaking people. Well ya'll know my stand on the Bible by now {KJBO} and I just take that as another example of the world coming off as godly.
Now I know I've ruffled feathers of some people, and I'm sure half the board is going to come down on my head, but I just had to speak out here.
Sorry if you don't like it, but I have an opinion and you can have yours. By now I've learned you can't change someone's mind and it's up to them in the end of what they believe.
IMHO, Abby

PS, after reading over this, I realize some people may think I'm saying this in an angre sort of way, but truely I mean it nicely. I'm just not the most eloquent person!

 

[Mike McK]

Originally posted by saved by grace 1999:

Oh BTW love the picture of the guy with his tounge out. Great Christian testimony. }

Pretty superficial thing to based such a judgement on, isn't it?

Even if it dosn't mean anything bad, the Bible says to adstain from the apearance of evil.

So then, by that logic, let's take the crosss out of our churches.

After all, they're often used by white supremecist groups.

I don't care what you say,

Gee, thanks. I'll try to treat you with a little more respect than that.

it's worldly and being of the world isn't right.

Based on what?

It's not agreeing with the Bible which comands us to abstain from the world.

But you haven't demonstrated that it's "of the world".

Oh and someone made the statement about that symbol thing being in the NKJV, and that that "version" was the version for English speaking people. Well ya'll know my stand on the Bible by now {KJBO} and I just take that as another example of the world coming off as godly.

So then, you're judging it by a third party's use of it? That doesn't make sense.

 

[Gina B]

Mike and everyone, where does this group claim to be Christian? I can't find it anywhere on the site. I saw them talking about "if it makes you feel good it's a good song", etc., the only time they came close to even the thought of anything Christian was a reference to "that thing in the sky". They label themselves as a multi-cultural group, trying to bridge that gap, and they've "shared" the stage with groups like Korn, which is a pretty Satanic group to hear the teens talk.
Who labels them as Christian? They themselves certainly don't appear to!
Gina

 

[Baptist Believer]

Originally posted by saved by grace 1999:
That sign on the drums does look like 3 sixes comdined. Even if it dosn't mean anything bad, the Bible says to adstain from the apearance of evil.

So we just give in to total ignorance and toss out anything that someone might misunderstand??? If there's a symbol that someone doesn't understand, it's a perfect opportunity to tell someone the gospel. (I'm speaking from experience here.)

Oh and someone made the statement about that symbol thing being in the NKJV, and that that "version" was the version for English speaking people. Well ya'll know my stand on the Bible by now {KJBO} and I just take that as another example of the world coming off as godly.

"World coming off as godly"? I don't understand your meaning...

Since you are KJVO, I suppose you don't accept the NKJV. I certainly hope you aren't suggesting that the symbol that "appears evil" being on the cover of the NKJV demonstrates the evil of both.

Now I know I've ruffled feathers of some people, and I'm sure half the board is going to come down on my head, but I just had to speak out here.

Same here. I've been blunt, but I'm not angry... just astounded at your willingness condemn a traditional Christian symbol because someone might make a false assumption about it. (Note: I'm talking hypothetically here, not necessarily referrring to anyone here.)

People thought Jesus might have been demonized, but that didn't make their beliefs true and it certainly didn't make Jesus change His ministry.

Sorry if you don't like it, but I have an opinion and you can have yours. By now I've learned you can't change someone's mind and it's up to them in the end of what they believe.

Christians who's minds are open to the Spirit can change.

If you please, I realize I am more strict on some things than other moderators. See my post on page 6.

Your friendly co-moderator,
Aaron

[ December 17, 2002, 09:01 AM: Message edited by: Aaron ]

 

[Baptist Believer]

Originally posted by Gina:
Mike and everyone, where does this group claim to be Christian?

It took me all of 2 minutes to find something. I just went to the All Music Guide and looked it up:

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=SEARCH&sql=Be1amqj5uoj6a

 

[Mike McK]

Originally posted by Gina:

Mike and everyone, where does this group claim to be Christian?

Rather than "a Christian band", I think it's more accurate to call them "a band made up of Christians" who's Christian worldview shows through otherwise mainstream songs.

I can't find it anywhere on the site.

Maybe that's not what the site's about.

I saw them talking about "if it makes you feel good it's a good song", etc.

If you read that quote again, I don't think that's what it says.

They label themselves as a multi-cultural group, trying to bridge that gap, and they've "shared" the stage with groups like Korn, which is a pretty Satanic group to hear the teens talk.

Good! If KORN's that bad, then thank God there's a Christian infulence there.

Who labels them as Christian? They themselves certainly don't appear to!

They're Christians but not a Christian band.

[ December 16, 2002, 08:58 PM: Message edited by: Mike McK ]

 

[Refreshed]

Originally posted by Baptist Believer:
It took me all of 2 minutes to find something. I just went to the All Music Guide and looked it up:

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=SEARCH&sql=Be1amqj5uoj6a

Better watch it BB, or Mike McK will jump all over you on this one!

Originally posted by: Mike McK
While I applaud your attempt to "research" this (although I really have to wonder if you gave equal time to opposing views), I've got to wonder why you went out to find a website that agrees with you after the fact rather than just standing behind your original statement.

 

[Mike McK]

Originally posted by JonathanDT:

Mike, yeah I know of Christafari. Aren't they still around?

Hey, Jonathan. They might still be around, I just hadn't heard anything from them for a couple of years.

 

[Mike McK]

Originally posted by Refreshed:

Better watch it BB, or Mike McK will jump all over you on this one!

Why? She asked a specific question and he answered it.

What you did was to speak to one thing and then, after the fact, run out and found a website that supported your view in order to make it look like you were speaking to something else.

Not the same thing at all.

[ December 16, 2002, 09:51 PM: Message edited by: Mike McK ]

 

[Gina B]

Well silly me, I was looking at their OWN site and not at others! DUH!
Since the topic is CCM and they're not, why are we wasting time discussing what they are?
Back to the topic please, - the pseudo-Christian people who make up the non-Christian band.
Gina

 

[Refreshed]

Originally posted by Mike McK:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Refreshed:

Better watch it BB, or Mike McK will jump all over you on this one!

Why? She asked a specific question and he answered it.

What you did was to speak to one thing and then, after the fact, run out and found a website that supported your view in order to make it look like you were speaking to something else.

Not the same thing at all.</font>

OFF TOPIC: Well, that was rather humorless, wasn't it Mike?

I APOLOGIZE TO THE ENTIRE WORLD FOR TRYING TO BE FUNNY ************.

ON TOPIC: Man, did you guys see the tattoos on the arms of the members of P.O.D.! (I'm not trying to be judgemental here, just stating a fact that I happened to notice because they have their entire arms covered by them which is not considered normal for the world in which I live, but which might be perfectly normal for the world they live in, and Christ wouldn't judge us by our outside appearances anyway, because as we know, when we are saved, we have no change on the outside anyway, and there is no difference between being a Christian and worldly, and we all know that it was just a suggestion somewhere in the Bible to stay away from the appearance of evil and to be a peculiar people).

Man, I'm qualified out. Since I'm fairly new here, would someone PM me to tell me how to post without offending someone else???

[ December 17, 2002, 08:37 AM: Message edited by: Aaron ]

 

[Gina B]

Refreshed, check your pm's in a minute.
Gina

 

[Refreshed]

Originally posted by Gina:
Refreshed, check your pm's in a minute.
Gina

Back at ya.

Jason

 

[Mike McK]

Originally posted by Refreshed:

OFF TOPIC: Well, that was rather humorless, wasn't it

Mike?

I APOLOGIZE TO THE ENTIRE WORLD FOR TRYING TO BE FUNNY *****************.

Sorry. I really do have a sense of humor but I get hammered here quite a bit so I guess I'm a little overly sensetive lately.

[ December 17, 2002, 08:40 AM: Message edited by: Aaron ]

 

[Refreshed]

Originally posted by Mike McK:

Originally posted by Refreshed:[qb]

OFF TOPIC: Well, that was rather humorless, wasn't it

Mike?

I APOLOGIZE TO THE ENTIRE WORLD FOR TRYING TO BE FUNNY *****************.

Yeah, I'm starting to know the feeling!

[ December 17, 2002, 08:42 AM: Message edited by: Aaron ]

 

[Aaron]

Everyone please familiarize yourselves with the BB Posting Rules. See the link at the bottom of the page.

I admit that I am more strict about rule number 3 than most others, but experience has taught me that the music subject can scarcely be discussed before insults, whether direct or implied, begin flying through the air.

My only recourse is to nip it in the bud.

We don't need to imply that those who have one view are stupid. We certainly don't misuse another member's name.

I'm not talking about being sickly sweet either.

It is possible to have a strongly worded post without jabbing the others.

It does get old after a while.

Your friendly co-moderator,
Aaron

 

[Gina B]

Thanks for the reminder Aaron, and glad to see it does look like in this case everyone settled it between themselves before it got mean.
BTW, do you have an opinion on the topic? Just curious, as long as you're looking anyhow.

Gina

 

[Ransom]

HomeBound:

So I guess the answer is YES.

The disingenuous answer is yes. You don't mention that you were told: the only people who interpret it as evil have a vested interest in seeing it that way.

 

[Ransom]

grace 1999 said:

That sign on the drums does look like 3 sixes comdined.

So what if it does? There is nothing intrinsically evil about the number 6, the number 6 repeated three times, or the number 666 - much less an abstract design that merely resembles three interlocked 6's.

That verse about abstaining from the appearance of evil has little force when the thing doesn't even appear evil . . .

 

[Ransom]

Gina said:

Back to the topic please, - the pseudo-Christian people who make up the non-Christian band.

Are you referring to the members of Audio Adrenalin, the band with which you started this thread? If so, I think you need to back up your assertions that they are "pseudo-Christians," and AA is a "non-Christian band," with some actual evidence, please.